From: Alexander Epifanov <epifanov@komset.ru>
To: Alex Baretta <alex@baretta.com>
Cc: Alexander Epifanov <epifanov@komset.ru>, Ocaml <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ocaml killer
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:43:51 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040127094351.GA16215@inv_machine> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <401627A9.9060901@baretta.com>
On 09:56 Tue 27 Jan , Alex Baretta wrote:
> Alexander Epifanov wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I have read message about Skala language, and I think (it's only my IMHO),
> >that ocaml have no future without some features, like concurrent
> >programming
> >(CP) and chance to use libraries from the other languages.
>
> Thanks for sharing you "humble opinion" with us. Let me share mine with
> you: my company has chosen Ocaml as it's primary general purpose
> language and is devoting most of it's R&D efforts towards new
> development based on/for Ocaml.
>
> >1) Erlang uses build in CP, but Skala has a library for it, IMHO it would
> >be a
> >good way for ocaml feature. Thread module isn't enough for effective usage
> >of
> >CP.
>
> Ever heard about message passing? Did you ever try running a
> multithreaded application on a server cluster?
Everybody has server clusters?
>
> >2) No one would use ocaml without libraries, and it's so hard to rewrite
> >them
> >all in ocaml. external functions aren't enough to use libraries from
> >Languages
> >like java or c++.
>
> No one. Except maybe Xavier et al. in the Cristal group. Except maybe
> myself and all of my colleagues. Except all of those who subscribe to
> the mailing list. Except hundreds of researchers and students.
You want to use ocaml for yourself only? Do You need more popularity of
ocaml ? OCaml isn't used a lot for commercial projects.
>
> How about "No one you know would use Ocaml with Java bindings". No one +
> I know would use a language with Java bindings for any realistic project.
>
> >Are any plans about these two features exists ?
>
> I definitely hope Xavier will not waste his time coding JNI's to use
> ocaml within Java.
I agree with you, JNI isn't the best solution. But what time do you need to
implement the part of CPAN's libraries for example ? Ocaml is the great
language for the BIG projects. but it hasn't simple libraries for small
projects. Of course, It doesn't need them for "academical" language.
>
> Alex
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-01-27 6:32 Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27 8:56 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-27 9:43 ` Alexander Epifanov [this message]
2004-01-27 18:32 ` Shawn Wagner
2004-01-28 4:38 ` skaller
2004-01-28 5:30 ` james woodyatt
[not found] ` <40168498.6070708@tfb.com>
2004-01-27 19:10 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-28 13:29 ` David Fox
2004-01-28 15:12 ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-27 9:41 ` Alexander Danilov
2004-01-27 9:57 ` Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27 16:43 ` Eric Stokes
2004-01-27 18:19 ` David Fox
2004-01-27 18:47 ` Richard Jones
2004-01-27 19:29 ` Eric Stokes
2004-01-28 13:30 ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-28 23:26 ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-28 23:47 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 0:00 ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29 0:04 ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29 0:11 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 0:34 ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29 0:47 ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer' Matt Gushee
2004-01-29 8:52 ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-29 16:20 ` fancy types (was Re: [Caml-list] ocaml killer) William Lovas
2004-01-29 17:13 ` james woodyatt
2004-01-29 17:26 ` Benedikt Grundmann
2004-01-29 17:17 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-29 17:41 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 19:18 ` William Lovas
2004-01-30 10:36 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-31 3:39 ` William Lovas
2004-02-01 2:11 ` Vasile Rotaru
2004-02-02 11:08 ` Florian Hars
2004-01-29 18:33 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 17:53 ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer skaller
2004-01-29 5:20 ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-29 6:36 ` Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-29 8:53 ` [Caml-list] ocaml and concurrency james woodyatt
2004-01-29 9:46 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-01-29 10:37 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 11:51 ` Michael Hicks
2004-01-29 12:20 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 12:43 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 15:42 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-01-29 16:11 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 16:56 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 17:19 ` james woodyatt
2004-01-29 17:43 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 17:54 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 18:08 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-30 0:19 ` Lauri Alanko
2004-01-29 19:37 ` skaller
2004-01-30 0:05 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-30 6:52 ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-30 8:53 ` Issac Trotts
2004-01-30 20:45 ` skaller
2004-01-31 6:29 ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-30 20:12 ` skaller
2004-01-29 18:35 ` skaller
2004-01-29 9:56 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 18:26 ` skaller
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-23 10:19 [Caml-list] ocaml killer Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27 8:28 ` Richard Jones
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