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From: Michal Moskal <malekith@pld-linux.org>
To: Ocaml Mailing List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ANNOUNCE: mod_caml 1.0.6 - includes security patch
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:54:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040120185445.GA26921@roke.freak> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200401201952.56605.exa@kablonet.com.tr>

On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 07:52:56PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 January 2004 19:34, you wrote:
> > Haskell is lazy, ocaml is strict. Consider following snippet of
> > ``ocaml'':
> >
> > let _ = f (x)
> >   where x = g ()
> >
> > Now, the reader of the code might take false impression that f() is
> > executed before g(). Of course there is no such danger with function
> > definitions in where blocks, but still I think readability is the reason
> > it is absent from ocaml.
> 
> Such a reader would be equally confused by let blocks. The order of execution 
> is hardly the concern here.

	let _ =
	  let x = g () in
	  f (x)

First execute g(), then f(), plain and simple.

This may sound a bit heretic here, but this is how most programmers
think about program execution -- first do this, then do that. Even more
-- this is how ocaml works.

> I don't think the problem you mention has much to do with where syntax. Its 
> semantics is quite independent of evaluation strategy! 

Yes, of course you can have well defined semantic for any string of
characters. But that's not the point. You say it's more readable --
you're probably right. I say it *can* be confusing.

-- 
: Michal Moskal :: http://www.kernel.pl/~malekith : GCS {C,UL}++++$ a? !tv
: When in doubt, use brute force. -- Ken Thompson : {E-,w}-- {b++,e}>+++ h

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-20 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-15 14:03 Richard Jones
     [not found] ` <4006AC01.F2AD2741@decis.be>
2004-01-15 15:42   ` Richard Jones
2004-01-15 16:19     ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-15 16:53       ` Richard Jones
2004-01-16  6:15         ` james woodyatt
2004-01-16  9:34           ` Richard Jones
2004-01-16 19:05             ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-16 18:52               ` Yutaka OIWA
2004-01-16 19:20                 ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-16 19:01               ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-19 10:13               ` Luc Maranget
2004-01-19 11:36                 ` Richard Jones
2004-01-19 14:43                   ` Luc Maranget
2004-01-19 16:10                     ` Richard Jones
2004-01-19 17:46                       ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-19 18:05                         ` Richard Jones
2004-01-19 21:45                           ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-20 11:31                             ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-20 12:30                               ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-21 14:01                               ` skaller
2004-01-20 17:34                             ` Michal Moskal
2004-01-20 17:52                               ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-20 18:54                                 ` Michal Moskal [this message]
2004-01-20 19:21                                   ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-20 19:37                                   ` David Brown
2004-01-20 20:38                                     ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-21 19:07                                     ` Max Kirillov
     [not found]                                       ` <Pine.GSO.4.53.0401211150520.10508@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
2004-01-22  2:15                                         ` Max Kirillov
2004-01-20 23:00                               ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-20 23:48                                 ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-21  0:34                                   ` David Brown
2004-01-21  2:32                                     ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-21  2:34                                     ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-21  2:34                                       ` Shawn Wagner
2004-01-21  9:43                                     ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-21  5:16                                   ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-19 21:59                           ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-01-19 18:18                         ` David Brown
2004-01-19 19:15                           ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-19 19:19                             ` David Brown
     [not found]                       ` <20040119185746.A12690@beaune.inria.fr>
2004-01-19 18:07                         ` Richard Jones
2004-01-20  1:29                 ` skaller

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