From: Oleg Trott <oleg_trott@columbia.edu>
To: Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Strange physical equality behavior
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:48:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200311110148.22096.oleg_trott@columbia.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031110103330C.garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
On Sunday 09 November 2003 08:33 pm, Jacques Garrigue wrote:
> On mutable structures, [e1 == e2] is true if and only if
> physical modification of [e1] also affects [e2].
By the way, either "mutable structures" or "physical modification" need to be
clarified, because if (int ref list) is "mutable" then the above is wrong:
let a = [ref 0];;
let b = ref 0 :: a;;
incr (List.hd a);; (* physical ? *)
a == b;;
b;;
> On non-mutable structures, the behavior of [(==)] is
> implementation-dependent; however, it is guaranteed that
> [e1 == e2] implies [e1 = e2].
This doesn't work for "nan" though, as was recently discussed. [1]
> The functorial approach offers a much cleaner solution.
I'm not convinced.
With non-functorial sets:
type t = Leaf of string | Node of t Set.t
How would you do this with functorial sets? Perhaps like this:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=fa.dlqsupe.1c6ajga%40ifi.uio.no
module A : sig
type t = Leaf of string | Node of ASet.t
val compare: t -> t -> int
end
= struct
type t = Leaf of string | Node of ASet.t
let compare t1 t2 =
match (t1, t2) with
(Leaf s1, Leaf s2) -> Pervasives.compare s1 s2
| (Leaf _, Node _) -> 1
| (Node _, Leaf _) -> -1
| (Node n1, Node n2) -> ASet.compare n1 n2
end
and ASet : Set.S with type elt = A.t
= Set.Make(A)
(BTW, that example doesn't yet work in 3.07-2 default toplevel. And couldn't
one write "let compare = Pervasives.compare" above? )
> I'm yet to see code mixing two sets of the same type but with different
> comparison functions.
Exactly! That's why *statically* assuring ordering function consistency is not
all that important [2]. Which is why x==x would be a bigger help than
recursive modules.
[1] I can understand false "nan = nan", because "nan" is a kind of exception,
but false "x == x" feels very non-mathematical to me.
[2] I am a static typing fan, but this seems excessive.
Regards,
Oleg
P.S. I've already participated in this discussion longer than my tolerance for
language-lawyerism or passion about this issue allow me, so I'll probably end
it here.
--
Oleg Trott <oleg_trott@columbia.edu>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-11-11 6:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-09 18:34 Oleg Trott
2003-11-10 1:33 ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-11-10 2:25 ` Oleg Trott
2003-11-10 8:29 ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-11-10 18:41 ` Michal Moskal
2003-11-11 1:35 ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-11-11 6:48 ` Oleg Trott [this message]
2003-11-11 16:46 ` David Brown
2003-11-12 0:32 ` William Lovas
2003-11-11 17:08 ` brogoff
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