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From: Pierre Weis <pierre.weis@inria.fr>
To: sylvain.le-gall@polytechnique.org (Sylvain LE GALL)
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Printf and format
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 12:26:49 +0200 (MET DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200307051026.MAA02389@pauillac.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030703163804.GA1207@gallu> from Sylvain LE GALL at "Jul 3, 103 06:38:05 pm"

> Hello,
> 
> I am sorry to ask a so silly question, but i need it for my personnal
> work, and i could not find it in the archive.
> 
> Is there a way to transform string to ( 'a, out_channel, unit, unit)
> format. I need this function to use it with something like :
> 
> Printf.printf (my_fun "X, Y") "coucou";;
> 
> I look at the code and see a function scan_format, but it seems to be
> forbid to use it. 
> 
> Any idea ?
> 
> Thanks
> Sylvain LE GALL

As once announced on this list, the new release of Objective Caml will
introduce a lot of novelty on the format type.

Besides new convertion specifiers that you could find in the Printf
and Scanf documentation (C, S, B, F, !, ...), there are now several
different new functionalities provided by the new compiler which are
relevant to your question:

0) converting arbitrary format string to a regular strings

1) converting CONSTANT strings to the corresponding constant format string

2) concatenating format strings (very often feature 0 and 1 are used
in conjonction just to implement format strings concatenation).

Those primitives are provided with respective names string_of_format,
format_of_string, and binary infix operator ( ^^ ). I think they are
useful and powerful: those new features should leverage the need for
using Obj.magic and type constraints inside programs that directly
manipulate format strings.

However, this introduction of new format strings primitives has
necessitated the addition of a new type variable to the format type
that now get 4 variables instead of 3: this extra variable is
mandatory to adequately type-check the kprintf function and to give an
appropriate type to the new format concatenation operator (appropriate
here just meaning correct, i.e. safe).

This is normally completely transparent to programs that just use
printf-like functions: the printf functions get a type using the new
format type constructor, its format string get also the extra type
variable in its typing, the type-checker hapilly handles the
application and you will not even notice the modification.

However, this new type variable indeed introduces a backward
incompatibility, if you ever used the format type constructor into
your programs, as part of the type constraints appearing either in the
interface files or directly into your programs (to force an expression
to get a format type).

In this case, the modification of your program is easy and as follows:

 Just duplicate the last variable of the format type constructor argument.

This systematic way to correct programs that mentioned the format type
constructor is a minor inconvenience for the sake of the useful
additions described above.

If the users on this list feel it too complex and way too boring to
modify their programs like that, we may try to implement various hacks
to leverage the burden. I should mention that, even if I'm not
enthusiastic at all to have been obliged to introduce such a backward
incompatibility into the compiler, I would be ashame to add such (not
so clean) hacks into it as well. In particular, because in this case,
the modification of programs is almost trivial.

Back to your problem: the features described here may your for some
``my_fun'' functions, but the general case is not properly covered by
them. What we need is a general function that reads a format from
within a string that is NOT a constant. This is a kind of dynamic
convertion reminiscent of int_of_string or float_of_string, that
checks that the string can be indeed considered as an integer of
floatting point number.

I propose (and have implemented for my own programming of a general
translation function) a new function [read_format], such that

[read_format pat s] returns the string [s] as a format string that has
the same type (hence the same ``printf meaning'') as [pat], the first
format string argument.

For instance,

read_format "The number %d is odd" "Le nombre %d est impair"

returns "Le nombre %d est impair" as a format string with the same
type as "The number %d is odd".

This function is more general that the one above since now in
[read_format pat s] the string [s] is not mandatorily an immediate
string constant: it can be obtained from an arbitrary computation, as
read from a file.

The Typechecking of read_format would be:

read_format :
 ('a, 'b, 'c, 'd) format -> string -> ('a, 'b, 'c, 'd) format

If considered useful, this function could be added, for instance as
part of a new internationalization module.

Hope this helps,

Pierre Weis

INRIA, Projet Cristal, Pierre.Weis@inria.fr, http://pauillac.inria.fr/~weis/


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  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-05 10:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-03 16:38 Sylvain LE GALL
2003-07-05 10:26 ` Pierre Weis [this message]
2003-07-05 12:07   ` Sylvain LE GALL
2003-07-06 10:35     ` Xavier Leroy

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