From: Michal Moskal <malekith@pld-linux.org>
To: John Max Skaller <skaller@ozemail.com.au>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] First order compile time functorial polymorphism in Ocaml
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:58:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030623095857.GA23772@roke.freak> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3EF6796E.20004@ozemail.com.au>
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 01:52:14PM +1000, John Max Skaller wrote:
> Michal Moskal wrote:
>
> >On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 04:25:18AM +1000, John Skaller wrote:
>
> >First thing to consider: map function of this kind only exists for types,
> >where type variables occur only positively.
>
> What does that mean?
Variable occurs positively in type, if it's preceded by even number of
negations.
When you treat -> as logical implication, you get:
a -> b == a & !b
So 'a -> t, 'a -> (t -> 'a) are 'a-positive, t -> 'a is 'a-negative,
and 'a -> 'a isn't neither 'a positive nor 'a negative. Other tycons
(like *) doesn't change sign. But when you define new type, say:
type ('a, 'b) t = Foo of 'a -> 'b
then ('c, 'd) t is 'd negative, and 'c positive.
> >Even then, for inductive
> >types it requires proof (it isn't as simple as it first seems).
>
>
> The proof has been constructed for all polynomial types,
>
> i.e. types using only sums and products.
> [Paper:Functorial ML, Author:Barry Jaye, the mechanism
> there generalises over 'arbitrary' algorithms: I'm not proposing
> that, rather that the theory can be applied to hand write
> the generators for popular functions like map and fold]
Ah, you mean only sums and products. Then you're correct (you are
avoiding the hard case :-).
> >For example consider:
> >
> >type 'a t = Foo 'a -> unit
> >
> >To map : 'a t -> 'b t here, you need f : 'b -> 'a.
>
>
> Ah, ok, exponential is contravariant.
>
> Probably have to think about
>
> 'a ref
>
> too.
type 'a ref = {mutable contents : 'a}
which is much the same as product type.
--
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Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-06-22 18:25 John Skaller
2003-06-22 19:03 ` Michal Moskal
2003-06-23 3:52 ` John Max Skaller
2003-06-23 9:58 ` Michal Moskal [this message]
2003-06-23 10:27 ` Markus Mottl
2003-06-23 10:35 ` Michal Moskal
2003-06-23 10:08 ` Markus Mottl
2003-06-23 8:07 ` Francois Rouaix
2003-06-23 9:03 ` Roberto Di Cosmo
2003-06-23 17:37 ` John Max Skaller
2003-06-23 9:03 ` Jun.Furuse
2003-06-23 17:53 ` John Max Skaller
2003-06-23 18:02 ` Jacques Carette
2003-06-24 1:00 ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-06-24 12:45 ` John Max Skaller
2003-06-24 14:34 ` Jacques Carette
2003-06-24 23:45 ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-06-25 2:27 ` John Max Skaller
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