From: Will Benton <willb@cs.wisc.edu>
To: Brian Hurt <brian.hurt@qlogic.com>
Cc: ranjan.bagchi@frotz.com, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: feature priorities (multithreading)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:17:56 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030219121756.C2587@tux15.cs.wisc.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0302191140020.2037-100000@eagle.ancor.com>; from brian.hurt@qlogic.com on Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:45:52AM -0600
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:45:52AM -0600, Brian Hurt wrote:
> A better approach is what's called the M-by-N approach. You have M kernel
> level threads (so you can take advantage of M parallel CPUs) each
> executing threads from a pool of N user space threads. This gives you the
> best of both worlds.
Not necessarily -- most m:n threads packages have non-preemptive user
thread schedulers, which means that a compute-intensive user thread that
never enters the kernel and doesn't yield the processor can monopolize
a kernel thread. That might be a pathological example (since if
you're trying to run >N compute-intensive threads on N processors,
you're in trouble), but someone might argue that an application that
context-switches enough to *require* m:n instead of 1:1 is
pathological in a different way.
If you need preemptability, then the best-of-both-worlds approach is
to find a system on which kernel thread context switches are cheap.
:-) (Making KT switches cheap seems to be the direction that the
industry is going -- Sun, for example, has dropped their m:n threads
package for solaris.)
best,
wb
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Will Benton
willb@acm.org
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-10 18:52 [Caml-list] Request: matrix_init function in Array Brian Hurt
2003-02-10 23:22 ` Pierre Weis
2003-02-11 2:37 ` Chris Hecker
2003-02-13 8:33 ` Pierre Weis
2003-02-13 16:50 ` Chris Hecker
2003-02-13 17:13 ` feature priorities (was Re: [Caml-list] Request: matrix_init function in Array) Ed L Cashin
2003-02-14 17:52 ` brogoff
2003-02-14 20:22 ` rich
2003-02-16 23:07 ` Alessandro Baretta
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0302170500360.32142@ontil.ihep.su>
2003-02-17 22:27 ` Alessandro Baretta
2003-02-19 9:18 ` [Caml-list] Re: feature priorities (multithreading) James Leifer
2003-02-19 16:46 ` cashin
2003-02-19 17:14 ` Ranjan Bagchi
2003-02-19 17:45 ` Brian Hurt
2003-02-19 18:17 ` Will Benton [this message]
2003-02-19 19:26 ` Brian Hurt
2003-02-19 17:25 ` Brian Hurt
2003-02-19 17:26 ` Noel Welsh
2003-02-20 8:00 ` Michel Schinz
2003-02-20 16:26 ` Brian Hurt
2003-02-13 17:38 ` [Caml-list] Request: matrix_init function in Array Brian Hurt
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