From: Pal-Kristian Engstad <engstad@naughtydog.com>
To: Eray Ozkural <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr>,
Xavier Leroy <xavier.leroy@inria.fr>,
Oleg <oleg_inconnu@myrealbox.com>
Cc: Emmanuel Renieris <er@cs.brown.edu>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] productivity improvement
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:47:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200210151147.36156.engstad@naughtydog.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200210151224.47272.erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr>
On Tuesday 15 October 2002 02:24 am, Eray Ozkural wrote:
> For instance in a stock market prediction code I have been working on, it
> took no more than a couple of days to rewrite a large portion of the code
> in Haskell that was previously written in C. The resulting code was
> significantly shorter and more modular; allowing me to play with new
> algorithms / metrics easily. The same would not be the case with C++. (The
> code isn't too Haskell specific and could be done as well in ocaml)
I've found Haskell's use of IO monads to be "interesting", but terribly
restricting and hard to understand. I do like their operator and function
overloading mechanisms though - I wish Ocaml would have something similar (it
just gets tedius having to add a "." in every floating point calculation).
I've also had problems with converting stateful programs into Haskell.
> That code I think went down from about 2500 lines to 500 lines which isn't
> bad. To attain that kind of improvement, you need a change in style. The C
> program apparently used lots of text I/O to transfer and store data between
> modules. The Haskell program didn't have to.
That's strange. How could the Haskell program not have to do IO?
> It is also true that it is not correct to expect such improvements in code
> that is too simple. If all you want to do is to sum over an array of
> integers, you can do it in C easily.
Now, that is very true.
PKE.
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2002-07-18 23:14 ` Oleg
2002-07-18 23:27 ` Brian Smith
2002-07-18 23:54 ` William Lovas
2002-07-19 3:59 ` Oleg
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2002-07-19 8:22 ` Oleg
2002-07-19 8:57 ` Andreas Rossberg
2002-07-19 10:14 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-07-19 18:15 ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-19 18:33 ` Brian Smith
2002-07-20 17:30 ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-19 19:06 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-07-20 17:49 ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-19 10:34 ` Oleg
2002-07-19 17:25 ` Andreas Rossberg
2002-07-20 16:58 ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-19 16:35 ` Brian Rogoff
2002-10-16 23:24 ` Eray Ozkural
2002-07-19 1:25 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-07-19 4:04 ` Oleg
2002-07-19 15:46 ` [Caml-list] Rule based language [was: productivity improvement] Alessandro Baretta
2002-07-19 17:20 ` [Caml-list] compact.c Julie Farago
2002-10-15 9:31 ` [Caml-list] productivity improvement Eray Ozkural
2002-10-15 12:34 ` Oleg
2002-10-15 15:08 ` Eray Ozkural
2002-07-19 4:42 ` Emmanuel Renieris
2002-07-19 9:57 ` Oleg
2002-07-19 10:43 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-07-19 10:52 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-07-19 11:36 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-07-19 11:10 ` Xavier Leroy
2002-10-15 9:24 ` Eray Ozkural
2002-10-15 18:47 ` Pal-Kristian Engstad [this message]
2002-10-17 0:12 ` Eray Ozkural
2002-10-17 9:34 ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2002-10-17 15:55 ` Jeffrey Palmer
2002-10-17 16:15 ` brogoff
2002-10-17 18:21 ` [Caml-list] Re: Camlp4 optimizations (was: productivity improvement) Christophe TROESTLER
2002-10-17 18:32 ` Chris Hecker
2002-10-17 19:08 ` Shivkumar Chandrasekaran
2002-10-17 20:01 ` Chris Hecker
2002-10-17 19:36 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-10-17 19:59 ` Brian Hurt
2002-10-17 20:22 ` Chris Hecker
2002-10-17 21:19 ` Brian Hurt
2002-10-17 21:37 ` Jeffrey Palmer
2002-10-17 23:55 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-10-18 0:57 ` Jeffrey Palmer
2002-10-18 4:21 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-10-18 8:23 ` Remi VANICAT
2002-10-18 8:46 ` Sven Luther
2002-10-18 1:47 ` Brian Hurt
2002-10-17 23:03 ` Chris Hecker
2002-10-18 23:55 ` brogoff
2002-10-18 10:43 ` [Caml-list] productivity improvement Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2002-10-21 8:57 ` Francois Pottier
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2002-07-21 13:00 ` [Caml-list] Rule based language [was: productivity improvement] Alessandro Baretta
2002-07-23 9:53 ` Oleg
2002-07-24 8:07 ` Alessandro Baretta
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2002-07-09 20:16 ` [Caml-list] productivity improvement Oleg
2002-07-08 19:53 Oleg
2002-07-08 20:14 ` Michael Vanier
2002-07-10 15:50 ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-10 18:56 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-07-10 19:09 ` Jun P.FURUSE
2002-07-11 23:43 ` Pierre Weis
2002-07-09 12:45 ` Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2002-07-09 18:20 ` Shannon --jj Behrens
2002-07-09 19:16 ` Oleg
2002-07-09 20:31 ` Shannon --jj Behrens
2002-07-10 10:02 ` sebastien FURIC
2002-07-10 11:58 ` Dave Mason
2002-07-10 13:11 ` sebastien FURIC
2002-07-10 19:22 ` nadji
2002-07-10 15:39 ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-11 8:57 ` Nicolas barnier
2002-07-16 3:34 ` Oleg
2002-10-18 3:13 ` Eray Ozkural
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