From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id NAA14013; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:30:27 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13559 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:30:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from verdot.inria.fr (verdot.inria.fr [128.93.11.7]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g97BUQ528505 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:30:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from ddr@localhost) by verdot.inria.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07589 for caml-list@inria.fr; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:30:25 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:30:25 +0200 From: Daniel de Rauglaudre To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Threats on future of Camlp4 Message-ID: <20021007133025.P25685@verdot.inria.fr> References: <20021006205517.B19829@verdot.inria.fr> <20021007072153.GA1326@iliana> <20021007105238.B25685@verdot.inria.fr> <20021007112559.GA18698@iliana> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20021007112559.GA18698@iliana>; from luther@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr on Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 01:25:59PM +0200 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk Hi, On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 01:25:59PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > Well, yes, ok, that is no problem, the problem is if you need the > _sources_ of the compiler to build the program, as opposed to having the > correct version of the compiler available. You *don't need* the sources of OCaml to compile Camlp4. You just need that OCaml (binary and library) is installed, that's all. > I don't see how the internal problems of the ocaml team has to do with > the seriousness or the readiness for industrial purpose ? As long as you > don't export it to the outside that is. The director of the project argues me that it is not possible to separate Camlp4 from OCaml because "we have industrial contacts". > > Can you imagine what happens if the second of Microsoft tells to a > > customer that Windows is "not serious"? The guy would be dismissed. > > Sure, but he would have been right, would he not ? Yes. But right or not, it is not the point. In the point of view of having users, or customers, destroying the work of his colleagues is a dangerous thing, which has consequences. Bad for sells, or bad for convincing the decidors, who are sometime not scientifics. > Beside the fact that Camel could have sued you for unlicensed use of > the icon [...] You joke? They would be happy, for sure, that scientifics encourage them and give them free ad! > and that it may well be contrary to the french laws about publicity > for cigarets, i don't think that the icon used for ocaml has bought > anyone to smoke. Ah, this is what they say in "Formule 1". I am convinced of the contrary. -- Daniel de RAUGLAUDRE daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr http://cristal.inria.fr/~ddr/ ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners