* [Caml-list] Using %identity for casting types
@ 2002-08-02 13:48 Jérôme Marant
2002-08-02 14:29 ` Jacques Garrigue
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From: Jérôme Marant @ 2002-08-02 13:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
Hi,
I'm doing some experiments in interfacing OCaml with C++ and
it is sometimes necessary to cast one type to another.
I've seen in lablgtk something like:
external unsafe_cast : 'a obj -> 'b obj = "%identity"
It is meant to be used by the end user?
Thanks.
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* Re: [Caml-list] Using %identity for casting types
2002-08-02 13:48 [Caml-list] Using %identity for casting types Jérôme Marant
@ 2002-08-02 14:29 ` Jacques Garrigue
2002-08-04 7:53 ` Jérôme Marant
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From: Jacques Garrigue @ 2002-08-02 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: marant.logatique; +Cc: caml-list
From: Jérôme Marant <marant.logatique@fr.thalesgroup.com>
>
> I'm doing some experiments in interfacing OCaml with C++ and
> it is sometimes necessary to cast one type to another.
> I've seen in lablgtk something like:
> external unsafe_cast : 'a obj -> 'b obj = "%identity"
>
> It is meant to be used by the end user?
Well, not really, but if you're interfacing with C++, it's not more
dangerous to do the cast in ocaml than in C++ (except if you use
rtti).
The above idiom is equivalent to
let unsafe_cast : 'a obj -> 'b obj = Obj.magic
It may be more efficient, as the compiler knows that unsafe_cast is
the identity, and can discard it. No code is generated.
I also tend to prefer it because it makes clear the need to properly
write types: such casts only make sense at a precise type, while
Obj.magic is 'a -> 'b, which allows too much.
And, as always, only use unsafe casts for non-ocaml data.
Ocaml datatypes are expressive enough that you don't need unsafe
casts for them.
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* Re: [Caml-list] Using %identity for casting types
2002-08-02 14:29 ` Jacques Garrigue
@ 2002-08-04 7:53 ` Jérôme Marant
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From: Jérôme Marant @ 2002-08-04 7:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp> writes:
> Well, not really, but if you're interfacing with C++, it's not more
> dangerous to do the cast in ocaml than in C++ (except if you use
> rtti).
>
> The above idiom is equivalent to
>
> let unsafe_cast : 'a obj -> 'b obj = Obj.magic
>
> It may be more efficient, as the compiler knows that unsafe_cast is
> the identity, and can discard it. No code is generated.
>
> I also tend to prefer it because it makes clear the need to properly
> write types: such casts only make sense at a precise type, while
> Obj.magic is 'a -> 'b, which allows too much.
>
> And, as always, only use unsafe casts for non-ocaml data.
> Ocaml datatypes are expressive enough that you don't need unsafe
> casts for them.
Thanks a lot.
Cheers,
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http://marant.org
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