From: "Alexander V.Voinov" <avv@quasar.ipa.nw.ru>
To: wneumann@cs.unm.edu
Cc: oleg_inconnu@myrealbox.com, sebastien.furic@tni-valiosys.com,
jjinux@yahoo.com, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: Sieve of Eratosthenes Performance: various languages
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:47:32 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020710.134732.63116839.avv@quasar.ipa.nw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207101423130.13340-100000@amanda.cs.unm.edu>
Hi William,
But it is completely imperative. As I understand, the original Oleg's
concern was that he doesn't see a point in learning something which
doesn't bring any benefit over C++. Personally, I don't see a point
in using OCaml _solely_ as a Pascal with GC.
The only reason which justifies for me your quoted exercise is that
when you deadly need an efficient imperative part in your program you
can (quite likely) achieve this without leaving the language (to a C
extension or whatever).
Alexander
From: "William D. Neumann" <wneumann@cs.unm.edu>
Subject: [Caml-list] Re: Sieve of Eratosthenes Performance: various languages (Re: [Caml-list] productivity improvement)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:34:52 -0600 (MDT)
> Gah!!! You guys are making me nuts!
>
> Not because of this topic (I actually find this somewhat interesting --
> even if I don't know why), but because every post on the subject has
> ignored the two most basic optimizations that should be done for this
> small prime generation:
> Doing trial division only up to the square root of the candidate (and)
> Incrementing your candidates by 2 rather than 1 (2 is the only even
> prime -- don't waste your time on even numbers!)
>
> Seriously, why pull out vector libraries, etc. while leaving these pigs in
> your pantry?
>
> For what it's worth, here is my naive 10 minute solution that takes about
> 0.2 seconds to generate the first 5000 primes on my 500MHz G4 (and no
> fair laughing at my poor programming chops!):
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Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-08 19:53 [Caml-list] productivity improvement Oleg
2002-07-08 20:14 ` Michael Vanier
2002-07-10 15:50 ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-10 18:56 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-07-10 19:09 ` Jun P.FURUSE
2002-07-11 23:43 ` Pierre Weis
[not found] ` <15657.61603.221054.289184@spike.artisan.com>
2002-07-09 4:43 ` [Caml-list] Universal Serializer (was: productivity improvement) Oleg
2002-07-09 7:56 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2002-07-09 7:59 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2002-07-10 16:06 ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-10 22:29 ` Michael Vanier
2002-07-11 8:13 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2002-07-12 12:41 ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-14 12:25 ` [Caml-list] Statically detecting arrays bound exceptions ?? (was: Universal Serializer) Berke Durak
2002-07-14 13:24 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-07-15 8:23 ` Xavier Leroy
2002-07-15 8:39 ` Noel Welsh
2002-07-15 21:22 ` Oleg
2002-07-15 22:44 ` Michael Vanier
2002-07-16 6:43 ` Florian Hars
2002-07-16 20:22 ` [Caml-list] " John Max Skaller
2002-07-16 20:36 ` Johan Baltié
2002-07-16 20:55 ` Hao-yang Wang
2002-07-17 8:25 ` Noel Welsh
2002-07-12 1:41 ` [Caml-list] Universal Serializer (was: productivity improvement) Eray Ozkural
2002-07-12 8:10 ` [Caml-list] OCaml QT bindings Stefano Zacchiroli
2002-07-12 17:30 ` Eray Ozkural
2002-07-12 10:37 ` [Caml-list] Re: productivity improvement Oleg
2002-07-12 11:23 ` Markus Mottl
2002-07-12 11:34 ` Oleg
2002-07-12 11:43 ` Markus Mottl
2002-07-12 12:59 ` Pierre Weis
2002-07-12 16:42 ` Markus Mottl
2002-07-14 20:44 ` Dave Berry
2002-07-14 22:13 ` Markus Mottl
2002-07-15 16:43 ` Alwyn Goodloe
2002-07-16 20:14 ` Dave Berry
2002-07-17 3:21 ` Eric Merritt
2002-07-15 9:39 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-10-15 8:38 ` Eray Ozkural
2002-10-17 21:27 ` Dave Berry
2002-10-18 2:48 ` Eray Ozkural
2002-10-20 12:46 ` Dave Berry
2002-10-21 6:11 ` Michael Vanier
2003-05-10 20:41 ` Eray Ozkural
2002-07-12 11:43 ` Noel Welsh
2002-07-12 12:10 ` Markus Mottl
2002-07-12 13:44 ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-12 16:19 ` Alan Schmitt
2002-07-12 20:41 ` John Carr
2002-07-13 21:19 ` [Caml-list] Re: productivity improvementu Pierre Weis
2002-07-12 21:24 ` [Caml-list] Re: productivity improvement Brian Smith
2002-10-15 8:57 ` Eray Ozkural
2002-10-15 11:50 ` [Caml-list] eproductivity improvement Alessandro Baretta
2002-07-09 12:45 ` [Caml-list] productivity improvement Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2002-07-09 18:20 ` Shannon --jj Behrens
2002-07-09 19:16 ` Oleg
2002-07-09 20:31 ` Shannon --jj Behrens
2002-07-10 10:02 ` sebastien FURIC
2002-07-10 11:58 ` Dave Mason
2002-07-10 13:11 ` sebastien FURIC
2002-07-10 19:22 ` nadji
2002-07-10 20:15 ` Sieve of Eratosthenes Performance: various languages (Re: [Caml-list] productivity improvement) Oleg
2002-07-10 20:34 ` [Caml-list] " William D. Neumann
2002-07-10 20:47 ` Alexander V.Voinov [this message]
2002-07-10 21:16 ` [Caml-list] Re: Sieve of Eratosthenes Performance: various languages William D. Neumann
2002-07-10 20:49 ` [Caml-list] Re: Sieve of Eratosthenes Performance: various languages (Re: [Caml-list] productivity improvement) William D. Neumann
2002-07-11 22:30 ` [Caml-list] Array.resize ? Oleg
2002-07-11 23:06 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-07-12 13:01 ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-12 18:24 ` Shawn Wagner
2002-07-11 23:31 ` Markus Mottl
2002-07-12 12:54 ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-12 13:23 ` Olivier Andrieu
2002-07-12 14:05 ` John Max Skaller
2002-07-12 16:09 ` Brian Rogoff
2002-10-19 9:16 ` Eray Ozkural
2002-10-19 22:15 ` [Caml-list] debugger losing contact with debuggee process Lex Stein
2002-10-20 10:06 ` Pierre Weis
2002-10-21 9:11 ` Xavier Leroy
2002-10-18 3:05 ` [Caml-list] Array.resize ? Eray Ozkural
2002-10-19 1:51 ` Oleg
2003-05-10 20:24 ` Eray Ozkural
2002-07-10 20:48 ` Sieve of Eratosthenes Performance: various languages (Re: [Caml-list] productivity improvement) Markus Mottl
2002-07-11 5:53 ` Anton E. Moscal
2002-10-18 3:07 ` Eray Ozkural
2002-07-10 15:39 ` [Caml-list] productivity improvement John Max Skaller
2002-07-11 8:57 ` Nicolas barnier
2002-07-12 12:16 ` [Caml-list] Is this a bug? John Max Skaller
2002-07-12 14:05 ` Xavier Leroy
2002-07-16 3:34 ` [Caml-list] productivity improvement Oleg
2002-10-18 3:13 ` Eray Ozkural
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