From: Michael Vanier <mvanier@cs.caltech.edu>
To: wlovas@stwing.upenn.edu
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] yet another question on lazy lists
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:26:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200207070026.g670Qdq14166@orchestra.cs.caltech.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020706182252.GA23247@force.stwing.upenn.edu> (message from William Lovas on Sat, 6 Jul 2002 14:22:52 -0400)
> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 14:22:52 -0400
> From: William Lovas <wlovas@stwing.upenn.edu>
>
> On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 05:26:33PM +0200, Pierre Weis wrote:
> > > Does this mean
> > > that my "stream_cons" function is useless?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Mike
> >
> > No. It means you cannot always use it in place of a constructor
> > application. Note that a similar phenomenon occurs for pattern
> > matching: constructors are mandatory, you cannot subtitute them by
> > equivalent function calls!
>
> Actually, i think stream_cons may be useless, due to OCaml's eager
> evaluation strategy. If you try to delegate the recursion to a function
> call, the following happens:
>
> # let rec constant n = stream_cons n (constant n);;
> val constant : 'a -> 'a stream = <fun>
> # constant 1;;
> Stack overflow during evaluation (looping recursion?).
>
> ... but the constructor still works:
>
> # let rec constant n = Cons (n, lazy (constant n));;
> val constant : 'a -> 'a stream = <fun>
> # constant 1;;
> - : int stream = Cons (1, {contents = Lazy.Delayed <fun>})
>
> The second argument needs to be treated lazily (which it is, explicitly,
> using the Cons constructor call), but stream_cons will never achieve that,
> unless i'm missing something.
>
> William
You're right. I realized this shortly after sending out the question.
Because of ocaml's eager evaluation, the whole point of 'stream_cons' is
thwarted by writing it as a function, because by definition all the
arguments to the function are evaluated. I got confused because I was
trying to imitate some scheme code from SICP in ocaml, and there was (what
looked like) a 'stream-cons' function in the SICP code. It turns out that
'stream-cons' has to be implemented as a macro in scheme (a point glossed
over in SICP).
>
> P.S. Michael, why not call your type something like `lazy_list', instead of
> `stream'? The latter conjures up images of stateful Stream.t's, for me at
> least. Just a thought!
Right again. This is SICP terminology. I'll change it if I post any more
questions on this subject to this list.
Thanks for your input (and to Pierre Weis for his explanation of the error
message).
Mike
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-06 1:48 Michael Vanier
2002-07-06 15:26 ` Pierre Weis
2002-07-06 18:22 ` William Lovas
2002-07-07 0:26 ` Michael Vanier [this message]
2002-07-08 0:33 ` John Max Skaller
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