From: Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
To: bwv211mail@yahoo.com
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] double-functors for types and values
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 12:33:11 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020613123311H.garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020612213108.88273.qmail@web13407.mail.yahoo.com>
From: Brian Naylor <bwv211mail@yahoo.com>
> It frequently happens that I have a module/functor A parameterized by
> module B, but B depends on types that are part of A. Those types of A in
> turn depend on the types of B. Wow, I've confused myself already. Let me
> try to make this clearer:
>
> let A.avalue = ... B.bvalue ...
> val B.bvalue : ... A.atype ...
> type A.atype = ... B.btype ...
>
> This results in the following kind of double-functor, one functor for the
> types and the second internal functor for the values:
[..]
> module B = struct
>
> type btype = ...
>
> module A_types = A.Types (struct type btype = B.btype end)
>
> let bvalue = ...
>
> module A_values = A_types.Values (struct let bvalue = B.bvalue end)
>
> let _ = ... A_values.avalue ...
>
> end
There 's something fishy in struct type btype = B.btype end:
if you're still inside B, you cannot refer to yourself as B.
The compiler might let you do that if you've already got a B.cmi
around, but you won't be able to compile from scratch.
So this should actually be even more nested:
module B = struct
module Types = struct type btype = ... end
module A_types = A.Types (Types)
module Values = struct let bvalue = ... end
module A_values = A_types.Values (Values)
let _ = ... A_values.avalue ...
end
> So, my questions are:
>
> (1) is this a normal way of structuring this kind of thing? I know I could
> use polymorphic types instead of trying to make it work in the module
> system, but I like the idea that all my types are made explicit.
I wouldn't call it normal, but this looks sound.
If you like things to be complicated.
> (2) do I pay a run-time cost for functor applications that only contain
> types? In other words, does A_values.avalue suffer a double
> indirection since it is buried two functors deep? Or do you only pay
> the indirection cost for values that are passed across functorial
> boundaries?
No. Type information is extracted at compile time.
For indirections, a module is just a big record, so if you have a
direct handle on it, its original nesting should not matter.
Am I correct?
Functors should incur three costs:
* type abstraction cost: if you depend on abstract types, some data
structure accesses cannot be optimized.
* function abstraction cost: all imported functions and (some?)
exported functions cannot be called directly. Expensive.
* structure access cost: you have to dereference to get to your
closures. I believe it's cheap compared to the function abstraction
cost. Xavier Leroy had recently some figures showing that a method
call (double indirection) was not that much more expensive than an
abstract function call.
Efficiency is a relative problem. As long as you're not calling an
abstract function doing a single addition inside you super-optimized
for-loop, this should be ok...
Jacques Garrigue
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2002-06-12 21:31 Brian Naylor
2002-06-13 3:33 ` Jacques Garrigue [this message]
2002-06-13 15:36 ` Brian Naylor
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