From: Daniel de Rauglaudre <daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] camlp4o problem (was: otags problem)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:57:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020205095755.B23442@verdot.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020204222850.N52713-100000@fledge.watson.org>; from patrick@watson.org on Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 10:40:04PM -0500
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 10:40:04PM -0500, Patrick M Doane wrote:
> Why? The ocaml syntax has changed before - there is no technical reason
> that prevents identical behavior between the two systems.
Just experience. This case is more complicated than "fun x -> x+x"
vs. "fun x -> 2*x".
> I just don't see camlp4 as being practical until it can correctly
> parse standard ocaml syntax.
I have done it, little by little. But with the current ("standard")
syntax I have sometimes problems, in particular lastly with class
types. But there are ways to turn around by adding specific grammar
entries with simple parsers, but loosing the "extensibility" for these
cases. In the revised syntax, there are no such hacks.
> From what I can tell, the revised syntax makes more changes to the
> language than are necessary to fit into camlp4 parsing technology.
Indeed. I was not obliged to use the constructors with currification
or list cons between brackets: I just considered this as better (read
the chapter about revised syntax in the Camlp4 tutorial), more
logical. Yes this syntax is not only to make Camlp4 work, it is an
"opinion", my opinion (built in part from my ideas, but not only).
> If the revised syntax only changed the syntax as necessary to
> support camlp4, and the standard compiler would be modified to
> reject anything not accepted by this new syntax, then the following
> proposal seems perfectly reasonable.
You propose that I add a third syntax? A middle between the normal
and the revised syntax. A norsed (or revmal) syntax?
Mmmm... there is also the problem of unclosed constructions (match,
try) which results in problems sometimes. It is not necessary to add
that to be able to parse with LL(1) Camlp4. The revised syntax is
supposed to fix some problems of the normal syntax.
--
Daniel de RAUGLAUDRE
daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr
http://cristal.inria.fr/~ddr/
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-02 0:12 [Caml-list] otags problem Shivkumar Chandrasekaran
2002-02-04 14:11 ` [Caml-list] camlp4o problem (was: otags problem) Hendrik Tews
2002-02-04 14:52 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 15:08 ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 15:41 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 15:57 ` Christophe Raffalli
2002-02-04 17:06 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 16:25 ` [Caml-list] syntax change (was: camlp4o problem) Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 17:01 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 17:46 ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 18:08 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-06 8:19 ` M E Leypold @ labnet
2002-02-04 18:28 ` Mattias Waldau
2002-02-04 20:11 ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 22:52 ` Chris Hecker
2002-02-04 23:04 ` Benjamin C. Pierce
2002-02-04 23:28 ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-04 23:20 ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-05 2:39 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05 2:55 ` Chris Hecker
2002-02-05 2:01 ` Brian Rogoff
2002-02-05 10:33 ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-05 11:53 ` Remi VANICAT
2002-02-05 12:05 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05 17:23 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2002-02-22 10:15 ` [Caml-list] Emacs mode for revised syntax? Johan Georg Granström
2002-02-22 10:21 ` Christian Gillot
2002-02-06 8:23 ` [Caml-list] syntax change (was: camlp4o problem) M E Leypold @ labnet
2002-02-04 23:04 ` Chris Hecker
2002-02-05 2:47 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05 2:59 ` Chris Hecker
2002-02-05 8:42 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05 9:09 ` [Caml-list] LL, LR, and camlp4 (was Re: syntax change) Chris Hecker
2002-02-05 9:31 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-05 9:33 ` Xavier Leroy
2002-02-05 12:17 ` Diego olivier FERNANDEZ PONS
2002-02-05 3:40 ` [Caml-list] camlp4o problem (was: otags problem) Patrick M Doane
2002-02-05 8:57 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre [this message]
2002-02-06 4:00 ` Patrick M Doane
2002-02-05 15:08 ` Hendrik Tews
2002-02-05 16:13 ` Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-06 19:17 ` Yaron M. Minsky
2002-02-06 20:02 ` [Caml-list] Re: bug (was: camlp4o problem) Daniel de Rauglaudre
2002-02-04 22:15 ` [Caml-list] camlp4o problem (was: otags problem) Shivkumar Chandrasekaran
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