From: Hugo Herbelin <Hugo.Herbelin@inria.fr>
To: tom7ca@yahoo.com (Tom _)
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 04:03:45 +0200 (MET DST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200106060203.EAA22757@pauillac.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010605104804.83767.qmail@web11902.mail.yahoo.com> from Tom _ at "Jun 5, 101 03:48:04 am"
> > let a = ref 0. in
> > for i = 0 to n-1 do
> > a := !a +. Array.unsafe_get xs i
> > done
> ...
> Why not have a construct that expresses what
> the programmer really wants:
>
> let mutable a = 0. in
> for i = 0 to n-1 do
> a <- a +. Array.unsafe_get xs i
> done
>
> Tom
I was precisely asking myself the same question, initially motivated
by explaining the imperative constructs of ML to programmers coming
from the imperative side. I mean how to explain that you find in ML a
regular for-loop, a regular while-loop but you need to use pointers to
translate assignments as in the code at top above which really only
corresponds to the following C code:
int i;
double *a = (double *) malloc(sizeof(double)); *a = 0;
for (i=0;i<=n-1;i++) *a = *a + xs[i];
Assume more generally that you can modify any local variable as in the
(standard) following example:
let fact (mutable n) =
let mutable r = 1 in
while n > 0 do
r <- r * n;
n <- n - 1
done;
r
At first, this is in contradiction with the substitution property of
purely functional languages, like "let x = 1 in ... x ..." should
behave the same as "... 1 ...", but it then should be enough to
explain that a while-loop binds over all the variables modified in its
body, as the functional interpretation of the while-loop shows it
let fact n =
let r = 1 in
let rec loop (r,n as effects) =
if n > 0 then
let r = r * n in
let n = n - 1 in
loop (r,n)
else effects in
let (r,n) = loop (r,n) in
r
and the substitution property is preserved.
The compilation model of ocaml is already able to handle this (at
least the bytecode, in fact to realize the incrementation of the
for-loops counter) and the typing would just be monomorphic as for
any mutable. May there be any problem I don't see? Is there a risk
to allow more imperative-style algorithms? Could it really lead to
a sensible benefit in efficiency for some typical algorithms?
At least, it seems there is some limitations with higher-order
functions.
> let a = ref 0 in
> Hashtbl.iter (fun k d -> a := !a + d) my_hash
Following the same principe as before, an alternative would be
let a = mutable 0 in
Hashtbl.iter (fun k d -> a <- a + d) my_hash
explaining that the substitution property is preserved by the fact
that a function too binds over the variables it modifies, even if in
this case, the functional translation needs to add an extra arg to
iter.
But since only "immediate" variables of a function are not copied (all
the variables declared by and since the closer surrounding "fun"), the
last option will not work: when building the closure, a new copy of
the value of a is put in the closure environment and further updatings
will not affect the initial cell.
Hugo
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-06-04 13:25 David McClain
2001-06-04 19:51 ` William Chesters
2001-06-04 20:05 ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-04 20:15 ` David McClain
2001-06-04 22:34 ` Markus Mottl
2001-06-06 20:13 ` William Chesters
2001-06-06 22:29 ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-07 7:42 ` William Chesters
2001-06-05 7:22 ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-06 6:27 ` David McClain
2001-06-04 22:14 ` Tom _
2001-06-04 22:57 ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-05 2:52 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-06-05 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2001-06-05 10:48 ` Tom _
2001-06-06 2:03 ` Hugo Herbelin [this message]
2001-06-06 4:04 ` Charles Martin
2001-06-06 18:25 ` William Chesters
2001-06-06 18:35 ` William Chesters
2001-06-06 18:40 ` Patrick M Doane
2001-06-07 1:50 ` Hugo Herbelin
2001-06-07 18:20 ` Tom _
2001-06-07 23:49 ` [Caml-list] let mutable (was OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions) Jacques Garrigue
2001-06-08 0:20 ` [Caml-list] Currying in Ocaml Mark Wotton
2001-06-08 10:13 ` Anton Moscal
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106081015000.1167-100000@hons.cs.usyd.edu.a u>
2001-06-08 0:38 ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-08 8:25 ` [Caml-list] let mutable (was OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions) Ohad Rodeh
2001-06-08 15:21 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-06-08 17:30 ` Pierre Weis
2001-06-08 18:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2001-06-08 19:07 ` Pierre Weis
2001-06-08 19:30 ` Michel Quercia
2001-06-11 6:42 ` [Caml-list] should "a.(i)" be a reference? (was "let mutable") Judicaël Courant
2001-06-11 13:42 ` [Caml-list] let mutable (was OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions) Pierre Weis
2001-06-12 3:21 ` Jacques Garrigue
2001-06-12 7:43 ` Pierre Weis
2001-06-12 8:31 ` Jacques Garrigue
2001-06-12 13:15 ` Georges Brun-Cottan
2001-06-12 21:54 ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-15 9:55 ` Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-01 18:38 [Caml-list] OCaml Speed for Block Convolutions David McClain
2001-06-01 22:51 ` Tom _
2001-06-02 0:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2001-06-04 10:12 ` Jacques Garrigue
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