From: Luc Maranget <Luc.Maranget@inria.fr>
To: skaller@ozemail.com.au (John Max Skaller)
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ocaml and named constants
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:50:05 +0200 (MET DST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200105291350.PAA0000018491@beaune.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B12F66C.5F5793F9@ozemail.com.au> from "John Max Skaller" at mai 29, 2001 11:07:56
>
> Xavier Leroy wrote:
>
> > > I ask because it seems odd that camlp4 includes
> > > a feature for creating real defined constants that are textually
> > > substituted before compilation begins.
> >
> > One motivation for this is to be able to put named constants in
> > patterns, e.g.
> >
> > match get_next_byte() with
> > mpg_joint_stereo -> ...
> > | mpg_78rpm -> ...
> > | _ -> ...
> >
> > which cannot be done in plain ML.
>
> Is there any semantic reason why
> one cannot use variables, or even expressions? Apart from
> the obvious syntactic problem.
Not that obvious, I think this would make pattern-matching look
like even more complicated.
It is good to stress on the fact that
in match .. with p ->, p is a pattern
1. Some value ``whith holes''
2. Something we programmer and compiler know without any computation.
Just for the sake of avoiding :
if x=mpg_joint_stereo else if x=... else if ...
I would not throw away the simple idea of what a pattern is.
Now the usual Caml answer to such extension of patterns
(the same apply to non-linear patterns such as (x,x))
If you want pattern matching, you can have it !
match get_next_byte() with
x when x = mpg_joint_stereo -> ...
| x when x = mpg_78rpm -> ...
| _ ->
And, when the mpg_xxx are known constants
some optimization (which does not exist now) could apply, such as
replacing pattern ``x when x=1'' by pattern ``1''.
Hence we need no extension for doing what you wish, we only need more
optimisations.
On the other hand, if we extend pm the way you want
(if I got it right let us assume a backquoting mecanism)
match get_next_byte() with
<< mpg_joint_stereo >> -> ...
| << mpg_78rpm >> -> ...
| _ -> ...
Then we should treat the general case, and
the semantics can only be
let x = get_next_byte in
if x=mpg_... etc.
The overall benefit of including such a feature is not very clear for me.
Compilation difficulties and programmer errors are, IMHO. on the way.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-05-29 13:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-05-23 17:06 David Fox
2001-05-28 12:32 ` Xavier Leroy
2001-05-29 1:07 ` John Max Skaller
2001-05-29 12:12 ` Andreas Rossberg
2001-05-29 17:16 ` John Max Skaller
[not found] ` <skaller@ozemail.com.au>
2001-05-30 9:46 ` Wolfgang Lux
2001-05-29 13:50 ` Luc Maranget [this message]
2001-05-30 16:50 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-05-31 9:22 ` Luc Maranget
2001-05-31 16:34 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-06-01 4:39 ` David Fox
2001-06-01 1:45 ` John Max Skaller
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