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From: Pierre Weis <Pierre.Weis@inria.fr>
To: sumii@saul.cis.upenn.edu
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: de Bruijn indices (Re: WWW Page of Team PLClub)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:36:36 +0200 (MET DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200010101036.MAA05015@pauillac.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001009031955T.sumii@saul.cis.upenn.edu> from Eijiro Sumii at "Oct 9, 100 03:19:55 am"

> this inconvenience can be mitigated by including _both_ a name (for
> human use) and an index (for machine use) in each variable, and

Hope you will not get the dark sides of both worlds!

> > - you have to manipulate indices anyway to mimmick alpha-conversion
> > when performing beta-reduction (the operation is named the ``lifting''
> > of De Bruijn indices), and you know that this is at least as difficult
> > and error prone as performing alpha-renaming.
> 
> such errors in lifting, shifting, etc. of De Bruijn indices are much
> easier to find than those in alpha-conversion, because they lead to
> immediate problems (which occurs in simple programs) rather than
> subtle ones (which occurs in only programs that "shadow" variables in
> particular ways).

You're right.

Still, I fooled a supposed ``perfectly debugged'' partial evaluator
with my first higher-order example (admittedly not a simple but a
rather subttle program, that forces you to recursively insert
lambda-terms and beta-reduce them, and could exercise your De Bruijn
indices lifter in a non standard way ...).

Pierre Weis

INRIA, Projet Cristal, Pierre.Weis@inria.fr, http://cristal.inria.fr/~weis/




  reply	other threads:[~2000-10-10 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-05 10:33 WWW Page of Team PLClub (Re: ICFP programming contest: results) David McClain
2000-10-05 20:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2000-10-06 19:26   ` eijiro_sumii
2000-10-07  8:19     ` automatic translation in Team PLClub ICFP'2000 entry Julian Assange
2000-10-07 16:30       ` eijiro_sumii
2000-10-06  8:07 ` WWW Page of Team PLClub (Re: ICFP programming contest: results) Xavier Leroy
2000-10-07  8:35   ` Pierre Weis
2000-10-07  9:55     ` Markus Mottl
2000-10-07 10:24       ` Pierre Weis
2000-10-08 21:26     ` John Max Skaller
2000-10-10 10:23       ` Pierre Weis
2000-10-09  5:51     ` Benjamin Pierce
2000-10-09  7:19     ` de Bruijn indices (Re: WWW Page of Team PLClub) Eijiro Sumii
2000-10-10 10:36       ` Pierre Weis [this message]
2000-10-10 14:04       ` de Bruijn indices Gerard Huet
2000-10-10 17:29         ` Chet Murthy
2000-10-11 22:35           ` John Max Skaller

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