From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from weis@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id XAA03630 for caml-red; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 23:00:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA32283 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:47:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e8EGlqr18799; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:47:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from xleroy@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id SAA02540; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:47:51 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <20000914184751.52791@pauillac.inria.fr> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:47:51 +0200 From: Xavier Leroy To: miles , caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: commercializing ocaml References: <20000906203118.A35936@bubo.inside> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1 In-Reply-To: <20000906203118.A35936@bubo.inside>; from miles on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 08:31:18PM +0000 Sender: weis@pauillac.inria.fr > I've been eagerly following the success of Bluetail and Erlang and > wondering if something similar might be possible with OCaml. The > model seems simple: assemble a small team of first-class programmers > and take advantage of the productivty gains afforded by a good > functional language to compete on quality, performance, and time to > market. I did not reply immediately to your message, because I hoped members of this list with more experience in start-up companies would comment. The main issue, in my opinion, is to have a suitable application area to target. You simply can't sell a new language alone, even with a good implementation. Several companies were created in the '80s and '90s to sell functional or logic languages and implementations, and I think all of them went down. The remarkable success of Bluetail is mainly due to them being experts in a hot domain (telecom software). The additional productivity and reliability brought by Erlang over more conventional languages helped them a lot, of course, but Erlang by itself would not have allowed them to make such a big hit. > For example, I see potential opportunities in the emerging > ASP/hosted application market, where most interfaces are simple > network text or XML protocols and fpl's advantages in dealing with > complex logic could be critical. That's one possibility -- although you should not disclose your business plans on a mailing list :-) > Has anyone considered such a venture? Perhaps the folks at INRIA? We didn't, really, by lack of a hot application area. - Xavier Leroy