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From: Pierre Weis <Pierre.Weis@inria.fr>
To: georges.mariano@inrets.fr (Georges Mariano)
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: tiny toplevel
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:41:56 +0200 (MET DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200008081341.PAA13260@pauillac.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39901098.42459B42@inrets.fr> from Georges Mariano at "Aug 8, 100 01:52:24 pm"

> Hello,
> 
> I know it is possible to create (specific) toplevels
> by adding some stuff to the original toplevel but...
> is it possible to do the reverse, i.e creating toplevels
> by removing some (supposed) unnecessary libraries/components ??
> 
> By the way, what's the size of the "smallest" possible toplevel 
> (if 'smallest' make sense...) ??
> 
> (why this question ??? well, no particular point but
> think 
>         - about comparing "scripting language" interpreters (size)
>         - about "tiny ocaml" or "embedded ocaml" ...
> )
> 
> [I have no idea about what can be removed from the original toplevel :-)
> just a question
> ]
> Thanks
> -- 
> > Georges MARIANO                 tel: (33) 03 20 43 84 06
> > INRETS, 20 rue Elisee Reclus    fax: (33) 03 20 43 83 59

It is not easy to remove ``unnecessary libraries/components'' from the
toplevel executable program, since you need all the compiler anyway,
in order to ``interpret'' the language. If you want to remove
something, you should probably remove features from the language (for
instance use Caml Light instead of Objective Caml!).

However, a very simple experiment shows that the Caml toplevels are
not extremely big, compared to usual command interpreters:

mouton:/$ ps ug
USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
weis      7506  0.1  0.7  1564  904 pts/5    S    14:15   0:00 /bin/bash -i
weis      7546  0.1  1.2  2840 1652 pts/5    T    14:16   0:00 ocamlrun /usr/bin
weis      7656  1.6  0.5  1484  660 pts/5    T    14:17   0:00 camlrun /usr/loca
weis      7665  0.0  0.6  2252  844 pts/5    T    14:18   0:00 perl
weis      7657  0.0  0.6  2500  876 pts/5    R    14:18   0:00 ps ug

Hope this helps,

Pierre Weis

INRIA, Projet Cristal, Pierre.Weis@inria.fr, http://cristal.inria.fr/~weis/




  reply	other threads:[~2000-08-08 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-08-08 13:52 Georges Mariano
2000-08-08 13:41 ` Pierre Weis [this message]
2000-08-08 16:21 ortmann
2000-08-09 11:29 ` Markus Mottl
2000-08-09 12:29   ` Georges Mariano
2000-08-09 13:03     ` Markus Mottl
2000-08-09 17:45     ` Xavier Leroy

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