From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from weis@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id RAA25685 for caml-red; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:52:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA04570 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:38:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from gateway.bbb.caltech.edu (gateway.bbb.caltech.edu [131.215.25.161]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e5FKcYP18811; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:38:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from corruscant.bbb.caltech.edu ([131.215.137.5]) by gateway.bbb.caltech.edu with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #2) id 132g4b-0002g5-00; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:17:09 -0700 Received: from sith.bbb.caltech.edu (sith.bbb.caltech.edu [131.215.137.33]) by corruscant.bbb.caltech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904CD4EE50; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sith.bbb.caltech.edu (Postfix, from userid 590) id 711145E468; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:36:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Vanier To: bcpierce@cis.upenn.edu Cc: Pierre.Weis@inria.fr, garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp, caml-list@inria.fr In-reply-to: <2844.961073619@saul.cis.upenn.edu> (bcpierce@saul.cis.upenn.edu) Subject: Re: Newsgroup for Caml? References: <2844.961073619@saul.cis.upenn.edu> Message-Id: <20000615203644.711145E468@sith.bbb.caltech.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Sender: weis@pauillac.inria.fr > Cc: garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Jacques Garrigue), > caml-list@inria.fr > > I agree that the volume of traffic on the caml-list is close to > becoming a problem, but I'm not completely happy with the idea of an > unmoderated newsgroup: in my experience, they *always* fill up with > spam, off-topic discussions, and other kinds of garbage. I would > personally not read such a newsgroup. As a counter-example, look at comp.lang.python. There is very little spam, and the quality of postings is extremely high. I suspect that people who like nice languages like ocaml (and python!) are more likely to be well-behaved than the average usenet poster :-) Also, I think it's less intimidating for beginners like myself to post to a newsgroup with a silly question than to a mailing list. comp.lang.ml has always had a strong SML bias (due, no doubt, to this mailing list providing an alternative forum), and a very low volume, perhaps due to the moderation. I would rather see comp.lang.ml.caml or comp.lang.caml than just redirecting news to comp.lang.ml; how many of us actually read it? Also, I fear pointless SML vs. CAML flame wars might develop if all the caml traffic were to go to c.l.ml. However, a "caml-announce" mailing list would be a very good thing. Mike