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From: Dave Mason <dmason@sarg.Ryerson.CA>
To: Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: Syntax for label, NEW PROPOSAL
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:34:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200003171734.MAA28829@sarg.Ryerson.CA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:48:40 +0900." <20000317184840K.garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp>

>>>>> On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:48:40 +0900, Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp> said:

> Having seen a number of recent messages against having labels in the
> standard library, I have the feeling that there is a lot of
> confusion here, and I would like to make a few points clear.

> * In default (classic) mode, writing labels is (and will stay) not
> required. For those users that do not like labels, or do not want to
>[...]

> * What we are discussing about is modern mode. This is not pedantic
> mode, this is just another typing discipline. This basically doesn't
> concern people who are not very fond of labels, and will be
> perfectly happy with classic mode.

I have been following this discussion somewhat remotely.  I've not
been able to do much programming lately, and almost no OCAML (I have
dabbled with Olabl a few times).  From what I can see:

1) please do not call it ``modern'' mode.  Call it ``label'' mode.
   The word modern has baggage attached to it.  Other words that would
   be as good but also have (somewhat different) baggage include:
   different, changed, messed-up, experimental...  My point is that we
   should use a word that is not ``good'' or ``bad'', and calling it
   ``label'' mode seems best.  I have no opinion on what ``classic''
   mode should be called, although I think ``classic'' is fine (there
   is a little baggage, but it is split between has-withstood-the-
   test-of-time and old-fashioned, so is fairly neutral overall).

2) I do not expect to use label mode very frequently, except when
   dealing with ugly APIs (typically ones imported from some outside
   world, such as Tk).  If I can, in classic mode, program as I always
   have done, and access these APIs, but otherwise ignore labels
   (especially in the standard libraries!), I will be happy.

3) I hope classic mode will remain the default for a *long* time.

../Dave



  reply	other threads:[~2000-03-17 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-03-15 20:40 Don Syme
2000-03-17  9:48 ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-17 17:34   ` Dave Mason [this message]
2000-03-18  0:26     ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-23 13:07       ` Sven LUTHER
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-03-17 21:33 Damien Doligez
2000-03-18 21:07 ` Frank Atanassow
2000-03-18 22:40 ` John Prevost
2000-03-17 17:03 Don Syme
2000-03-17 19:24 ` John Prevost
2000-03-14 16:53 Syntax for label Don Syme
2000-03-15  3:15 ` Syntax for label, NEW PROPOSAL Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-15  6:58   ` Christophe Raffalli
2000-03-15 21:54     ` Julian Assange
2000-03-15 11:56   ` Wolfram Kahl
2000-03-15 13:58   ` Pierre Weis
2000-03-15 15:26     ` Sven LUTHER
2000-03-17  7:44       ` Pierre Weis
2000-03-15 17:04     ` John Prevost
2000-03-17 10:11       ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-15 17:06     ` Markus Mottl
2000-03-15 19:11     ` Remi VANICAT
2000-03-17  8:30       ` Pierre Weis
2000-03-17 14:05         ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-17 16:08           ` Pierre Weis
2000-03-15 21:30     ` John Max Skaller
2000-03-16  2:55     ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-17 15:13       ` Pierre Weis
2000-03-17 17:33         ` Wolfram Kahl
2000-03-18 11:59         ` Jacques Garrigue
2000-03-21 16:51       ` Pascal Brisset
2000-03-23 11:14         ` Nicolas barnier
2000-03-16  8:50     ` Pascal Brisset
2000-03-17 11:15       ` Sven LUTHER

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