From: Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
To: Alain Frisch <alain@frisch.fr>
Cc: OCaML List Mailing <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Request for feedback: A problem with injectivity and GADTs
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:18:39 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1D6C7417-8F98-4979-B6AF-E8C10CC21F71@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <517F7AA7.1020108@frisch.fr>
On 2013/04/30, at 17:02, Alain Frisch <alain@frisch.fr> wrote:
> On 04/30/2013 09:56 AM, Jacques Garrigue wrote:
>> On 2013/04/30, at 15:59, Alain Frisch <alain@frisch.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> It's reassuring to see that the conservative solution (not assuming injectivity of user defined abstract types) does not seem too bad for now, even if not very satisfying.
>>>
>>> I'm only concerned with:
>>>
>>>> 3) The problem I describe in my first mail. I.e. when defining a type,
>>>> if you use type variables appearing in constrained type parameters,
>>>> you need the type constructors leading to the type variables to be
>>>> injective. This is PR#5985, and it is only fixed in branches/non-vanishing.
>>>
>>> Do you think that fixing this unsoundness (without injectivity annotations) would lead to reject existing programs?
>>
>> Potentially yes.
>> But I don't know how it is in practice for code existing now.
>> Hence my question.
>
> Apart from GADTs, does your patch address the unsoundness with type constraints?
Sure, this is exactly the same mechanism.
The only other thing it does is a slight strengthening of variance checking.
Consider the type
type 'a t = T (* 'a bi-variant and injective *)
type 'a u = 'a t -> 'a t (* 'a t occurs both at positive and negative positions *)
Originally, the parameter of u would have been bi-variant (or unrestricted)
since it is bi-variant in the definition of t.
However it is now invariant.
The reason is that you can only change it by subtyping in t, and u doesn't allow subtyping.
This is a reasonable restriction, and it is necessary to allow some GADT
definitions where we use concrete types as indices.
Jacques Garrigue
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-30 8:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-28 0:02 Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-28 2:45 ` Markus Mottl
2013-04-28 10:28 ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-28 5:54 ` Jacques Le Normand
2013-04-29 3:45 ` Ivan Gotovchits
2013-04-29 4:03 ` Ivan Gotovchits
2013-04-29 5:17 ` Jacques Le Normand
2013-04-29 7:58 ` Alain Frisch
2013-04-29 10:52 ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-29 11:23 ` Alain Frisch
2013-04-29 16:37 ` Nathan Mishra Linger
2013-04-29 23:53 ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-30 5:45 ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-05-04 6:46 ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-05-04 7:09 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-05-04 12:28 ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-30 6:59 ` Alain Frisch
2013-04-30 7:56 ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-30 8:02 ` Alain Frisch
2013-04-30 8:18 ` Jacques Garrigue [this message]
2013-04-30 9:11 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-04-30 9:55 ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-04-30 10:12 ` Leo White
2013-04-30 11:30 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-04-30 13:06 ` Leo White
2013-04-29 7:59 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-01 14:47 ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-01 23:20 ` Jacques Garrigue
2013-07-03 16:08 ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-03 16:13 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-04 6:07 ` [Caml-list] Request for feedback: A problem with injectivity oleg
2013-07-04 7:35 ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-05 10:30 ` oleg
2013-07-05 12:02 ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-04 1:00 ` [Caml-list] Request for feedback: A problem with injectivity and GADTs Jacques Garrigue
2013-07-04 8:14 ` Alain Frisch
2013-07-04 8:52 ` Jacques Garrigue
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