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From: Francois Rouaix <frouaix@liquidmarket.com>
To: STARYNKEVITCH Basile <Basile.Starynkevitch@cea.fr>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: convincing management to switch to Ocaml
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:30:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <199907302130.OAA05661@fiji01.liquidmarket.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:47:34 +0200." <14239.6150.864319.797849@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

> Does any one have clues or positive experience about convincing
> management to switch to Ocaml?

> My manager's arguments are:
> 
> * There is an existing (important) code base (a static C code
> analyser) coded in C and C++ and it is unreasonable to recode it.

Interface OCaml to the C code (C++ is harder if you use exception)
if that makes sense (but maybe it doesn't).

> * Ocaml is a slow implentation

Can be refuted. ocamlopt is not that bad, and brings more
advantages (e.g. symbolic-manipulation requires decent and safe memory
allocation, safe typing and all that).

> * Ocaml is hard to learn for people (fluent in C++) with less than a PhD
> in computer science (unfortunately for me, I do hold a PhD in
> Artif. Intel.)

Simple test: throw the OCaml distribution at a C++ engineer, ask the guy
to write a semi-simple program in it. Chances are the engineer will be able
to do that in one afternoon (including installing the compiler). 
This is based on a true story (tech due diligence on us by people we're working
with, I can't disclose the name).

> * Ocaml might not last long (but ESPRIT projects don't last neither)

True, but the compiler is stable. How often do you need to update the compiler 
?

> ESPRIT projects are supposed to be preindustrial and OCaml is only academic

How many ESPRIT projects actually produce code that is being used ?


--f






  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-08-12  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-07-28 14:47 STARYNKEVITCH Basile
1999-07-30  9:00 ` Markus Mottl
1999-08-13 10:32   ` John Skaller
1999-08-25  1:51     ` Frank A. Christoph
1999-08-25  3:50       ` John Skaller
1999-08-25  6:34         ` Frank A. Christoph
1999-08-26 18:36         ` Stefan Monnier
1999-08-29  6:08           ` John Skaller
1999-08-27 10:00         ` Andreas Rossberg
1999-08-28  6:24           ` John Skaller
1999-08-30 15:59             ` Sylvain BOULM'E
1999-08-31  5:50             ` Brian Rogoff
1999-08-28 19:51           ` Dave Mason
1999-08-30 19:05             ` Xavier Leroy
1999-08-30  8:02           ` Pierre Weis
1999-08-30 19:35             ` John Skaller
1999-08-31 17:10               ` Pierre Weis
1999-09-03  6:56                 ` John Skaller
1999-08-31 19:03               ` Stefan Monnier
1999-09-03  7:28                 ` John Skaller
1999-08-31  0:13             ` John Prevost
1999-08-31  5:19               ` John Skaller
1999-08-31  6:35                 ` John Prevost
1999-09-03  5:42                   ` John Skaller
1999-08-31 16:24           ` Gerard Huet
1999-07-30 14:42 ` John Skaller
1999-07-30 18:49 ` Gerd Stolpmann
1999-07-30 21:30 ` Francois Rouaix [this message]
1999-08-12 10:36 ` Reply to: " Jens Olsson
1999-08-16 18:33   ` Chris Tilt
1999-08-12 12:15 ` Frank A. Christoph
1999-08-15  8:14   ` Friedman Roy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-09-07  7:24 TommyHallgren
     [not found] <John Skaller's message of "Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:19:48 +1000">

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