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From: Markus Mottl <mottl@miss.wu-wien.ac.at>
To: Xavier.Leroy@inria.fr (Xavier Leroy)
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr (OCAML)
Subject: Re: Sys.argv with interpreter and compiler
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 00:35:44 +0100 (MET DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <199907012235.AAA05846@miss.wu-wien.ac.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19990701193222.56286@pauillac.inria.fr> from "Xavier Leroy" at Jul 1, 99 07:32:22 pm

> > Wouldn't it be logically more consistent to pass the truncated array
> > of arguments to the script under the interpreter so that the program
> > always gets its name on index 0 - no matter whether it is compiled
> > or interpreted?
> 
> Yes, it would be more consistent, but that's exactly what it does
> currently.  At least, that's what a quick test under Linux shows.
>
> > - With the current version it gets the name of the
> > interpreter on this position.
> 
> That's surprising.  On which operating system do you see this
> behavior?  The treatment of argv[0] in C w.r.t. #! scripts differs
> between various versions of Unix, but we tried to compensate for this
> in the OCaml bytecode interpreter.

My explanation may probably be misconceived - maybe "interpreted" means
"interpreted by the byte code interpreter" to you whereas I use "compiled"
for byte code and native code and "interpreted" if I call the interactive
toplevel with a file argument.

Anyhow, I have made a test on two systems (Intel/Linux and Alpha/Digital
Unix) with ocaml-2.02-2. Both systems behaved exactly the same way, but
I got three different outputs for the three ways to execute the program.

The output of this program (bla.ml):

  print_endline Sys.argv.(0)

yielded:

interpreted:             /home/mottl/mysys/bin/ocaml
compiled to byte code:   ./bla
compiled to native code: bla

The difference between the byte code and native code version is probably
not so big a problem. But it would be useful for the development process
if the "interpreted" version would pass the arguments at the same index
in the argument vector.

As far as I remember, making OCaml (at least under Unix) a "true"
scripting-language (=with human-readable "#!"-scripts) is not so easy to
achieve: only binaries may be used as interpreters of "#!"-scripts, which
is not currently possible with the way the toplevel "ocaml" is designed -
it needs to be a byte code file. Are there already any convenient ways
around this problem?

Using byte code for scripting is not so comfortable and I think that
OCaml would give a wonderful language for "true" scripting...

Best regards,
Markus Mottl

-- 
Markus Mottl, mottl@miss.wu-wien.ac.at, http://miss.wu-wien.ac.at/~mottl




  reply	other threads:[~1999-07-02  0:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-06-27 12:02 Markus Mottl
1999-07-01 17:32 ` Xavier Leroy
1999-07-01 23:35   ` Markus Mottl [this message]
1999-07-02  0:39     ` Pierre Weis
1999-07-02  0:53       ` Fabrice Le Fessant
1999-07-05  8:09       ` Sven LUTHER
1999-07-05 10:37         ` Markus Mottl
1999-07-08 23:23           ` Gerd Stolpmann
1999-07-02  1:30     ` Jacques GARRIGUE
1999-07-02  8:56       ` Markus Mottl
1999-06-29 17:01 Damien Doligez
1999-07-08 11:39 Damien Doligez
1999-07-09  2:25 ` Jacques GARRIGUE

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