* RE: [MetaOCaml] Monads, monadic notation and OCaml
@ 2005-03-28 18:39 Harrison, William L.
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From: Harrison, William L. @ 2005-03-28 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Walid Taha, Jacques Carette; +Cc: metaocaml-users, caml-list
Hi Jacques and Walid-
<PLUG>
I've been reading your recent posts, and given the interest in stream (a.k.a. resumption) monads, I thought you might be interested in a draft I've submitted about the use of just such monads:
http://www.cs.missouri.edu/~harrison/drafts/CheapThreads.pdf
This article describes the construction of a multitasking operating system kernel in Haskell 98 using resumption monads; the kernel has all the "usual" OS behaviors (e.g., process forking, preemption, message passing, synchronization, etc.) captured succintly.
</PLUG>
Bill
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Sent: Mon 3/28/2005 12:17 PM
To: Jacques Carette
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Subject: Re: [MetaOCaml] Monads, monadic notation and OCaml
This is pretty cool!
Are you using the same monad we used in the FFT work?
Also, can you either get rid of the ";" after the "in" or the "in" before
the ";"? :)
Walid.
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Jacques Carette wrote:
|Attached is a camlp4 syntax extension for a 'monadic do notation' for OCaml, much like Haskell's. The syntax
|extension is joint work with Oleg Kiselyov, and is loosely based on previous work of Lydia van Dijk on a similar
|syntax extension.
|
|Naturally, in OCaml certain monads (like State and IO) are unnecessary. But other monads (List, option, etc) can be
|quite convenient.
|
|But monads can be much more than convenient. Below is some code written in a non-deterministic monad of streams.
|This example is particularly interesting in that it cannot be (naively) done in either Prolog or in Haskell's
|MonadPlus monad, both of which would go into an infinite loop on this example.
|
|(* test non-determinism monad, the simplest possible implementation *)
|type 'a stream = Nil | Cons of 'a * (unit -> 'a stream)
| | InC of (unit -> 'a stream)
|let test_nondet () =
| let mfail = fun () -> Nil in
| let ret a = fun () -> Cons (a,mfail) in
| (* actually, interleave: a fair disjunction with breadth-first search*)
| let rec mplus a b = fun () -> match a () with
| | Nil -> InC b
| | InC a -> (match b () with
| | Nil -> InC a
| | InC b -> InC (mplus a b)
| | Cons (b1,b2) -> Cons (b1, (mplus a b2)))
| | Cons (a1,a2) -> Cons (a1,(mplus b a2)) in
| (* a fair conjunction *)
| let rec bind m f = fun () -> match m () with
| | Nil -> mfail ()
| | InC a -> InC (bind a f)
| | Cons (a,b) -> mplus (f a) (bind b f) () in
| let guard be = if be then ret () else mfail in
| let rec run n m = if n = 0 then [] else
| match m () with
| | Nil -> []
| | InC a -> run n a
| | Cons (a,b) -> (a::run (n-1) b)
| in
| let rec numb () = InC (mplus (ret 0) (mdo { n <-- numb; ret (n+1) })) in
| (* Don't try this in Prolog or in Haskell's MonadPlus! *)
| let tst = mdo {
| i <-- numb;
| guard (i>0);
| j <-- numb;
| guard (j>0);
| k <-- numb;
| guard (k>0);
| (* Just to illustrate the `let' form within mdo *)
| let test x = x*x = j*j + k*k in;
| guard (test i);
| ret (i,j,k)
| }
| in run 7 tst
|;;
|
|We ourselves have been experimenting with a combined state-passing, continuation-passing monad, where the values
|returned and manipulated are code fragments (in MetaOCaml). This allows for considerably simpler, typed code
|combinators. Details of this work will be reported elsewhere.
|
|Jacques
|
|
|!DSPAM:42476c8f13209207723021!
|
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* RE: [MetaOCaml] Monads, monadic notation and OCaml
2005-03-28 18:17 ` [MetaOCaml] " Walid Taha
@ 2005-03-28 18:40 ` Jacques Carette
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From: Jacques Carette @ 2005-03-28 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Walid Taha'; +Cc: caml-list, metaocaml-users
> This is pretty cool!
Thanks.
> Are you using the same monad we used in the FFT work?
Yes. For those on caml-list, the paper Walid refers to is
@inproceedings{KiselyovSwadiTaha2004,
author = {Oleg Kiselyov and Kedar N.~Swadi and Walid Taha},
title = {A methodology for generating verified combinatorial
circuits},
booktitle = {ACM International conference on Embedded Software
(EMSOFT)},
year = {2004}
}
> Also, can you either get rid of the ";" after the "in" or the "in" before
the ";"? :)
See the comments in pa_monad.ml. Unfortunately we cannot easily do that; in
fact the required amount of work to achieve this might be quite large! It
would be by far easier to integrate this right into the grammar rather than
to post-facto extend the grammar via camlp4. At least, as far as my current
understanding of camlp4 goes -- maybe if a lot more of the tricks of the
camlp4 Masters were documented, it would not look so hard anymore!
Jacques
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* Re: [MetaOCaml] Monads, monadic notation and OCaml
2005-03-28 2:31 Jacques Carette
@ 2005-03-28 18:17 ` Walid Taha
2005-03-28 18:40 ` Jacques Carette
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From: Walid Taha @ 2005-03-28 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jacques Carette; +Cc: caml-list, metaocaml-users
This is pretty cool!
Are you using the same monad we used in the FFT work?
Also, can you either get rid of the ";" after the "in" or the "in" before
the ";"? :)
Walid.
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Jacques Carette wrote:
|Attached is a camlp4 syntax extension for a 'monadic do notation' for OCaml, much like Haskell's. The syntax
|extension is joint work with Oleg Kiselyov, and is loosely based on previous work of Lydia van Dijk on a similar
|syntax extension.
|
|Naturally, in OCaml certain monads (like State and IO) are unnecessary. But other monads (List, option, etc) can be
|quite convenient.
|
|But monads can be much more than convenient. Below is some code written in a non-deterministic monad of streams.
|This example is particularly interesting in that it cannot be (naively) done in either Prolog or in Haskell's
|MonadPlus monad, both of which would go into an infinite loop on this example.
|
|(* test non-determinism monad, the simplest possible implementation *)
|type 'a stream = Nil | Cons of 'a * (unit -> 'a stream)
| | InC of (unit -> 'a stream)
|let test_nondet () =
| let mfail = fun () -> Nil in
| let ret a = fun () -> Cons (a,mfail) in
| (* actually, interleave: a fair disjunction with breadth-first search*)
| let rec mplus a b = fun () -> match a () with
| | Nil -> InC b
| | InC a -> (match b () with
| | Nil -> InC a
| | InC b -> InC (mplus a b)
| | Cons (b1,b2) -> Cons (b1, (mplus a b2)))
| | Cons (a1,a2) -> Cons (a1,(mplus b a2)) in
| (* a fair conjunction *)
| let rec bind m f = fun () -> match m () with
| | Nil -> mfail ()
| | InC a -> InC (bind a f)
| | Cons (a,b) -> mplus (f a) (bind b f) () in
| let guard be = if be then ret () else mfail in
| let rec run n m = if n = 0 then [] else
| match m () with
| | Nil -> []
| | InC a -> run n a
| | Cons (a,b) -> (a::run (n-1) b)
| in
| let rec numb () = InC (mplus (ret 0) (mdo { n <-- numb; ret (n+1) })) in
| (* Don't try this in Prolog or in Haskell's MonadPlus! *)
| let tst = mdo {
| i <-- numb;
| guard (i>0);
| j <-- numb;
| guard (j>0);
| k <-- numb;
| guard (k>0);
| (* Just to illustrate the `let' form within mdo *)
| let test x = x*x = j*j + k*k in;
| guard (test i);
| ret (i,j,k)
| }
| in run 7 tst
|;;
|
|We ourselves have been experimenting with a combined state-passing, continuation-passing monad, where the values
|returned and manipulated are code fragments (in MetaOCaml). This allows for considerably simpler, typed code
|combinators. Details of this work will be reported elsewhere.
|
|Jacques
|
|
|!DSPAM:42476c8f13209207723021!
|
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