From: "Francois¡¡Charles Matthieu¡¡Berenger" <Berenger@riken.jp>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml vs Ada and/or GUI options
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 08:51:21 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1379202681604187.Berenger@riken.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00d001ceb0f7$3eb62c20$bc228460$@ffconsultancy.com>
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 04:05:17 +0100
Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
>
> More the tooling and documentation than the language although there is some
> overlap. The OCaml language is good for expressing GUI and graphical
> programs. Polymorphic variants are particularly useful.
>
> I'd say the main challenges are:
>
> 1. API Exploration: OCamlBrowser is a great little tool but it is much
> slower to use to explore a big API (like a GUI toolkit's API) than
> Intellisense.
By the way, where is the OCamlBrowser package for OPAM?
Is it not available via OPAM?
Regards,
F.
> 2. Libraries: OCaml has mature bindings to GTK but GTK has very limited
> support for modern GUI features. For example, vector graphics are ubiquitous
> in modern GUIs and GTK punts this to Cairo which comparable to using the
> Acorn DRAW file format from BBC BASIC in 1987 (26 years ago) but without the
> high-level memory safety that BBC BASIC offered.
>
> 3. Interoperability: both GTK and Qt punt more advanced (e.g. 3D) vector
> graphics to OpenGL but OCaml doesn't have any up-to-date OpenGL bindings.
> LablGL is mature but I don't think its bindings to GLU were ever finished
> and, of course, it only supports OpenGL circa the turn of the millenium.
> Ultimately, the problem is that interoperability is hard with OCaml.
>
> 4. Samples: There are relatively few OCaml GUI samples out there.
>
> With tablets reinventing user interface designs, the time is ripe for a new
> GUI toolkit, e.g. written in OCaml using OpenGL ES 2.0...
>
> Cheers,
> Jon.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alain Frisch [mailto:alain@frisch.fr]
> Sent: 12 September 2013 15:52
> To: jon@ffconsultancy.com
> Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
> Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml vs Ada and/or GUI options
>
> On 09/12/2013 04:40 PM, Jon Harrop wrote:
> > OCaml is nowhere near
> > having competitive support for basic features required for modern GUI
> > programming
>
> Hi Jon!
>
> Could you more specific? Are you referring to language features?
>
> -- Alain
>
>
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Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-10 21:09 Gour
2013-09-10 21:38 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11 5:24 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 7:21 ` Kakadu
2013-09-11 8:21 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 8:14 ` Gour
2013-09-11 18:17 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:31 ` Gour
2013-09-11 19:53 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 20:41 ` Gour
2013-09-11 21:01 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 5:44 ` Gour
2013-09-12 6:31 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 5:36 ` Gour
2013-09-12 6:48 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 7:26 ` Gour
2013-09-11 20:06 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 20:48 ` Anthony Tavener
2013-09-11 21:04 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 14:40 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-12 14:51 ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-12 14:57 ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2013-09-12 15:04 ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-14 3:05 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-14 7:10 ` Kakadu
2013-09-14 11:37 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-15 8:32 ` Kakadu
2013-09-14 23:51 ` Francois¡¡Charles Matthieu¡¡Berenger [this message]
2013-09-11 22:17 ` [Caml-list] " Richard W.M. Jones
2013-09-12 13:49 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-12 13:58 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-09-11 9:49 ` David MENTRE
2013-09-11 10:14 ` Kakadu
2013-09-11 15:21 ` David MENTRE
2013-09-12 1:31 ` Francois Berenger
2013-09-11 18:43 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 18:36 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:34 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 19:45 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 22:06 ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue
2013-09-12 3:25 ` Ivan Gotovchits
2013-09-12 6:41 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-12 11:49 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-11 19:17 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 22:03 ` [Caml-list] " Jacques Garrigue
2013-09-12 8:16 ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-11 12:26 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 18:48 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 13:22 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11 13:33 ` Kakadu
2013-09-11 14:09 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-09-11 19:36 ` Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 19:45 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-12 12:55 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2013-09-11 18:57 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 19:01 ` Rudi Grinberg
2013-09-11 19:15 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 8:10 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 1:00 ` [Caml-list] " Francois Berenger
2013-09-11 5:07 ` rixed
2013-09-11 8:26 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 9:23 ` rixed
2013-09-11 12:54 ` Leo White
2013-09-11 12:59 ` Gour
2013-09-11 19:06 ` Adrien Nader
2013-09-11 8:16 ` Gour
2013-09-11 9:00 ` Francois Berenger
2013-09-11 19:19 ` Gour
2013-11-17 20:12 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 7:38 ` Gabriel Kerneis
2013-09-11 8:20 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-11 11:42 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-18 11:42 ` [Caml-list] " Gour
2013-09-18 12:24 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2013-09-20 4:47 ` Gour
2013-09-19 8:11 ` Alain Frisch
2013-09-19 8:30 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-09-19 8:47 ` Andreas Rossberg
2013-09-20 4:51 ` Gour
2013-09-20 12:04 ` Gerd Stolpmann
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