From: Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de>
To: Fabrice Le Fessant <Fabrice.Le_fessant@inria.fr>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Efficient OCaml multicore -- roadmap?
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:11:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1303463512.8429.1344.camel@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DB136FB.6050302@inria.fr>
Am Freitag, den 22.04.2011, 10:06 +0200 schrieb Fabrice Le Fessant:
> On 04/21/2011 09:03 PM, Christophe TROESTLER wrote:
> > For the initial question: If OCaml gets proper parallelism, I believe
> > it is good not to neglect the needs of scientific users (to which I
> > belong) ― maybe they cannot be 100% met due to other considerations
> > but rejecting them from the start does not feel right to me.
>
> I think nobody is rejecting the needs of scientific users. OCamlPro
> actually started a long term project called "numcaml", to provide
> something similar (including syntactically) to numpy, which, I think,
> turned a lot of scientific users into Python fans. We are also thinking
> about how to address fine-grain parallel numerical computations using
> our current multicore solution.
>
> My point was just that J.H. has been writting everywhere, in every
> single forum in the world, that OCaml is bad because it could not
> address fine-grain parallelism, for his personal needs. I thought it was
> time for the silent majority of satisfied OCaml users to say, here and
> in those forums, that OCaml is actually addressing their most important
> concerns.
That would be good.
I've just released an example of using Netmulticore for fine-grained
parallelism:
http://blog.camlcity.org/blog/multicore3.html
J.H. is certainly right that he demands shared memory. Certain
algorithms cannot be done without. But shm is possible, even with
current ocaml - and Netmulticore demonstrates it. AFAIK the other
multi-process environments lack it.
Gerd
> Best,
> Fabrice
>
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2011-03-25 0:23 ` [Caml-list] " Sylvain Le Gall
2011-03-25 9:55 ` [Caml-list] " Alain Frisch
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2011-03-25 10:23 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
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2011-04-16 12:12 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-25 10:51 ` Hugo Ferreira
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2011-03-25 13:10 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
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2011-03-25 18:24 ` Martin Jambon
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2011-03-26 10:31 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-03-30 16:56 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-30 19:24 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-04-20 21:44 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-19 9:57 ` Eray Ozkural
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2011-04-20 7:59 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-20 12:30 ` Markus Mottl
2011-04-20 12:53 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-20 13:22 ` Markus Mottl
2011-04-20 14:00 ` Edgar Friendly
2011-04-19 22:49 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-30 17:02 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-20 19:23 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-20 20:05 ` Alexy Khrabrov
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2011-04-23 21:18 ` Jon Harrop
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2011-04-21 19:53 ` Hezekiah M. Carty
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2011-04-21 10:09 ` Philippe Strauss
2011-04-23 17:44 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-23 17:05 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-20 20:30 ` Gerd Stolpmann
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2011-04-13 13:09 ` Lucas Dixon
2011-04-13 23:04 ` Goswin von Brederlow
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2011-03-24 14:57 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-24 15:03 ` Joel Reymont
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