From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FC3BB84 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:46:26 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0DAOfm3EjAXQIniGdsb2JhbACTLgEBARUiqTWBZg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,316,1220220000"; d="scan'208";a="29636395" Received: from concorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.39]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 26 Sep 2008 22:46:26 +0200 Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m8QKkPUd027755 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:46:26 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0DAPrm3EjCpx6wiGdsb2JhbACTLgEBARUiqTmBZg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,316,1220220000"; d="scan'208";a="17398394" Received: from smtpmin.univ-orleans.fr (HELO min.univ-orleans.fr) ([194.167.30.176]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 26 Sep 2008 22:46:25 +0200 Received: from smtps.univ-orleans.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by min.univ-orleans.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B59412B4B7; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:46:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (ras75-4-82-235-58-110.fbx.proxad.net [82.235.58.110]) by smtps.univ-orleans.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8237636E60; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:46:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Teaching ocaml programming From: David Teller To: Andrej.Bauer@andrej.com Cc: Caml In-Reply-To: <48DCD870.5020202@fmf.uni-lj.si> References: <48DCC7B8.4070700@fmf.uni-lj.si> <23DFDBA7-C437-44E7-8495-D35F396A3889@cs.berkeley.edu> <48DCD870.5020202@fmf.uni-lj.si> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:46:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1222461986.6250.8.camel@Blefuscu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 48DD4A21.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; ocaml:01 univ-orleans:01 cheers:01 0200,:01 andrej:01 drscheme:01 haskell:01 andrej:01 univ-orleans:01 lifo:01 liquidations:98 wrote:01 caml-list:01 python:03 programming:03 Camelia worked rather nicely for me under Windows. The required setup was not quite compatible with my needs, though, so I dropped it. Cheers, David On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 14:41 +0200, Andrej Bauer wrote: > How can there be no easy to use interface?! This is pathetic. > > Python has IDLE. Scheme has drscheme. Java has drjava. What does Haskell > have? > > I compiled Camelia (which required me to debug C++ code for the first > time in about 20 years). It's kind of ok. The user interface is a bit > broken, lots of uneccessary pop-up dialogs (e.g., for every error message). > > Andrej -- David Teller-Rajchenbach Security of Distributed Systems http://www.univ-orleans.fr/lifo/Members/David.Teller Angry researcher: French Universities need reforms, but the LRU act brings liquidations.