From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100CEBC6C for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:29:27 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAOYjoUfAXQImh2dsb2JhbACQKgEBAQgKKZtI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,284,1199660400"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="8564812" Received: from discorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.38]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 31 Jan 2008 10:29:26 +0100 Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by discorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m0V9TPZR023047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:29:26 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,284,1199660400"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="8564811" Received: from peray.inria.fr (HELO ausone.inria.fr) ([128.93.8.98]) by mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr with SMTP; 31 Jan 2008 10:29:25 +0100 Received: by ausone.inria.fr (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, _d Jan 2008 10:28:21 +0100 From: "Nicolas Pouillard" Cc: caml-list Subject: Re: [Caml-list] build, distribution, data and metadata To: Cristian Baboi References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:28:21 +0100 Message-Id: <1201771428-sup-8932@ausone.inria.fr> User-Agent: Sup/git Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-1201771701-320206-54679-5710-3-="; micalg="pgp-sha1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Miltered: at discorde with ID 47A194F5.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; cristian:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 makefiles:01 makefiles:01 compiler:01 recompiled:01 rumors:98 caml-list:01 data:02 data:02 defined:02 api:02 suggestion:03 languages:03 X-Attachments: cset="UTF-8" type="application/pgp-signature" name="signature.asc" name="signature.asc" --=-1201771701-320206-54679-5710-3-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Excerpts from Cristian Baboi's message of Thu Jan 31 09:57:27 +0100 2008: > Hello! Hello! > I joined this list in an attempt to learn OCAML. > I don't yet know the language, the libraries or the building and > distribution policies. > In these two days since I subscribed to the list I've seen a long > discussion about the lack of standards. Last two days were exceptionally very loaded. > I have a few remarks regarding these matters and I thought to share them: > > - metadata is just data Yes, but this generally means data about data. > - the make files are written in a well defined language Considering GNU make, BSD make, pmake, bmake, omake... I would say no. > - rumors say ocaml is good at writing translators That's not rumor, that's the truth :) [...] > - I like the freepascal approach http://www.freepascal.org/advantage.var: > > "No Makefiles Unlike most programming languages, Pascal does not need > Makefiles. You can save huge amounts of time, the compiler just figures > out itself which files need to be recompiled." That's why ocamlbuild has been created, to make Makefiles useless. > So, my suggestion is to agree on a *language* in which to express the > build/distribution/whatever and then implement it the best way you can. That's OCaml itself using the ocamlbuild API. Regards, -- Nicolas Pouillard aka Ertai --=-1201771701-320206-54679-5710-3-= Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHoZS1j+FCNw9dwLkRAsJCAKCPPdUlwOru4qTqaeWj3KvRuqwpuwCdF8ay wpA5oBmiy5QXT9dom2cKfLw= =s+pE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-1201771701-320206-54679-5710-3-=--