From: Benjamin Canou <benjamin.canou@gmail.com>
To: caml-list <caml-list@yquem.inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] polymorphic lists, existential types and asorted other hattery
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:13:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1194981184.6402.33.camel@benjamin-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <473A197D.7070403@tepkom.ru>
Hi,
I've simulated objects with records like this in the past in when I
didn't need method resolution, and this thread made me worry about the
execution speed of such a pattern compared to ocaml objects.
So I made a little comparison between records and classes to do this
task (the code follows my message). Here is the result :
benjamin@benjamin-laptop:~/Work/Stuff$ ocamlopt classesvsrecords.ml -o
classesvsrecords && ./classesvsrecords
Classes: build = 1.316082, apply = 2.324145
Records: build = 1.872116, apply = 2.320145
Basically, objects are created faster than records (I think that an
object is created in O(1) whereas a record takes O(number of closures)
to be filled). Calls take the same time.
So, if you have to allocate a great number of values, then I think you
should consider using objects, otherwise, records wrapping the values
seem to be a correct option.
Benjamin.
(* classes *)
let show l = List.map (fun x -> x#show) l
class integer x =
object
method show = print_int x
method to_string = string_of_int x
end
class floating x =
object
method show = print_float x
method to_string = string_of_float x
end
(* records *)
type element = { show : unit -> unit ; to_string : unit -> string }
let wrap_int x = {
show = (fun () -> print_int x) ;
to_string = (fun () -> string_of_int x)
}
let wrap_float x = {
show = (fun () -> print_float x) ;
to_string = (fun () -> string_of_float x)
}
(* bench *)
let test_classes () =
let rec build_classes n acc =
if n <= 0 then
acc
else
build_classes
(pred n)
((new floating (float_of_int n))
:: (new integer n)
:: acc)
in
let t1 = Sys.time () in
let list = build_classes 1000000 [] in
let t2 = Sys.time () in
List.iter (fun x -> ignore (x#to_string)) list ;
t2 -. t1, Sys.time () -. t2
let test_records () =
let rec build_records n acc =
if n <= 0 then
acc
else
build_records
(pred n)
((wrap_float (float_of_int n))
:: (wrap_int n)
:: acc)
in
let t1 = Sys.time () in
let list = build_records 1000000 [] in
let t2 = Sys.time () in
List.iter (fun x -> ignore (x.to_string ())) list ;
t2 -. t1, Sys.time () -. t2
let _ =
let tci, tca = test_classes ()
and tri, tra = test_records () in
Printf.printf
"Classes: build = %f, apply = %f\nRecords: build = %f, apply = %f
\n"
tci tca tri tra
Le mardi 13 novembre 2007 à 21:39 +0000, Dmitri Boulytchev a écrit :
> Are structures allowed? :)
>
> type t = {show : unit -> string}
>
> let show l = List.map (fun x -> x.show ()) l
>
> let integer x = {show = fun () -> string_of_int x}
> let floating x = {show = fun () -> string_of_float x}
> let boolean x = {show = fun () -> string_of_bool x}
>
> let _ =
> List.iter
> (Printf.printf "%s\n")
> (show
> [
> integer 10;
> floating 3.14;
> boolean true;
> ]
> )
>
> OCaml does not have Haskell-style existential types (I don't exactly
> know why, but can
> presume that they may interfere with objects, which considered to be
> much more worthy).
> I like modules and functors very much, too, but, first, modules are
> not "first-class
> citizens", and second, there may be no need to re-implement all your
> stuff to
> start using objects --- OCaml is fairy orthogonal language.
>
> Best regards,
> DB.
>
> P.S. Objects are efficient :)
>
>
>
> > Ahh, right! Sorry, I forgot to mention I'm looking for a possible
> > solution
> > without classes.
> >
> > I ask because most of my code base is modules and functor based and it
> > would
> > be a pain to convert over. Also because performance is typically
> > better with
> > just functions and data types.
> >
> > I feel like a solution without the OO side is possible through perhaps an
> > analog of existential types?
> >
> > Peng
> >
> > On Tuesday 13 November 2007 04:14:06 pm Dmitri Boulytchev wrote:
> >
> > > Try using classes for this purpose:
> >
> > >let show l = List.map (fun x -> x#show) l
> >
> > >class integer x =
> > > object
> > > method show = string_of_int x
> > > end
> >
> > >class floating x =
> > > object
> > > method show = string_of_float x
> > > end
> >
> > >class boolean x =
> > > object
> > > method show = string_of_bool x
> > > end
> >
> >
> > >let _ =
> > > List.iter
> > > (Printf.printf "%s\n")
> > > (show
> > > [
> > > new integer 10;
> > > new floating 3.14;
> > > new boolean true;
> > > ]
> > > )
> >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Dmitri Boulytchev,
> > > St.Petersburg State University.
> >
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>Is there a way to create lists in which the elements may be of
> > >>differing types but which all have some set of operations defined
> > >>(eg. tostr) in common? One can then imagine mapping over such lists
> > >>with "generic" versions of those common operations. Here's a concrete
> > >>example of what I mean:
> > >>
> > >> module Int = struct
> > >> type t = int
> > >> let show x = string_of_int x
> > >> end
> > >> module Float = struct
> > >> type t = float
> > >> let show x = string_of_float x
> > >> end
> > >> module Bool = struct
> > >> type t = bool
> > >> let show x = string_of_bool x
> > >> end
> > >>
> > >> let xs = [`Int 1; `Float 2.0; `Bool false]
> > >> let showany x = match x with
> > >>
> > >> | `Int x -> Int.show x
> > >> | `Float x -> Float.show x
> > >> | `Bool x -> Bool.show x
> > >>
> > >> ;;
> > >> List.map showany xs;;
> > >>
> > >>Essentially we have ints, floats and bools. All these types can be
> > >>shown. It would be nice to be able to create a list of them [1; 2.0;
> > >>false] that you can then map a generalized show over. In the above
> > >>example, I used polymorphic variants in order to get them into the
> > >>same list and then had to define my own generalized show function,
> > >>"showany". This is fine as there is only one shared operation but if
> > >>there is a large set of these common operations, it becomes
> > >>impractical to define a generalized version for each of them.
> > >>
> > >>I've come across a way to do this in haskell using what they call
> > >>"existential types".
> > >>
> > >> http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Existential_type
> > >>
> > >>I don't really understand existential types however and don't know if
> > >>OCaml has them nor how to use them.
> > >>
> > >>So. How can one do this in OCaml? Is there perhaps a camlp4
> > >>extension that can do this? Is there a possible functor trick that
> > >>can take N modules as arguments and spit out a new module with a
> > >>generalized type that can take on any of the types in the arguments
> > >>and also make generalized versions of operations common to the N
> > >>modules? Are there existential types or equivalents in OCaml? If so
> > >>how does one go about using them?
> > >>
> > >>Thanks in advance to anyone who forays into this bundle of questions.
> > >>
> > >>Peng
> >
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-13 19:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-13 17:27 Peng Zang
2007-11-13 18:02 ` [Caml-list] " Arnaud Spiwack
2007-11-13 18:29 ` Julien Moutinho
2007-11-13 18:35 ` Julien Moutinho
2007-11-13 21:14 ` Dmitri Boulytchev
2007-11-13 18:24 ` Peng Zang
2007-11-13 21:39 ` Dmitri Boulytchev
2007-11-13 19:13 ` Benjamin Canou [this message]
2007-11-14 4:48 ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-11-14 12:45 ` Peng Zang
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