From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DFDBC69 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:52:06 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAABeVLUfAXQInh2dsb2JhbACOcQIBCAopgQ8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,369,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="18924352" Received: from concorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.39]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2007 18:52:06 +0100 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA4Hq5eg018186 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:52:06 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAJyVLUfLENaNnmdsb2JhbACOcQIBAQcEBhEYgQ8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,369,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="3885799" Received: from ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.141]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2007 18:52:04 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAPqSLUd5LH/+Wmdsb2JhbAAMjlwBIIE2 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,369,1188743400"; d="scan'208";a="221234371" Received: from ppp121-44-127-254.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.201]) ([121.44.127.254]) by ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2007 04:22:02 +1030 Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Industry looks for commercial OCaml support? From: skaller To: Oliver Bandel Cc: OCaml In-Reply-To: <1194195509.472dfa35d5fcc@webmail.in-berlin.de> References: <200711041201.10255.jon@ffconsultancy.com> <1194188801.472de001905ce@webmail.in-berlin.de> <1194192721.25159.14.camel@rosella.wigram> <1194195509.472dfa35d5fcc@webmail.in-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:52:01 +1100 Message-Id: <1194198721.25159.25.camel@rosella.wigram> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 472E06C5.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; ocaml:01 0100,:01 bandel:01 ocaml:01 show-stopper:01 ubuntu:98 sourceforge:01 sourceforge:01 wrote:01 oliver:01 caml-list:01 supported:02 canonical:03 programming:03 linux:07 On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 17:58 +0100, Oliver Bandel wrote: > Zitat von skaller : > [...] > > Lack of commercial support -- the kind Jon is offering -- > > is one of the impediments to industry taking Ocaml seriously. > [...] > > I doubt one or some programmers that offer their programming service is, > what industry is looking for, when it's looking for commercial support. > > Commercial support means, that big companies offer that service, because > industry mistrusts single individuals. I believe you are right that big companies don't trust individuals, but that doesn't mean Jon isn't offering anyhow. > And: is this really a show-stopper for Ocaml, that there is no > "commercial support"? I think so, but I'm only guessing. Ubuntu Linux has commercial support by Canonical, Fedora by Red-Hat, I believe this has some impact on their popularity. C# is supported by MS, Java by Sun. -- John Skaller Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net