From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F100EBC69 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:58:33 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAHOJLUfAXQInh2dsb2JhbACOcgIBCAop X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,369,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="18923359" Received: from concorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.39]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2007 17:58:33 +0100 Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA4GwVKB017122 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:58:33 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAOaILUfAbSoIh2dsb2JhbACOcQIBCAop X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,369,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="4026081" Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de ([192.109.42.8]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2007 17:58:30 +0100 X-Envelope-From: oliver@first.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id lA4GwUrl012539 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:58:30 +0100 Received: (from www-data@localhost) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lA4GwU8j012535 for caml-list@inria.fr; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:58:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: einhorn.in-berlin.de: www-data set sender to oliver@first.in-berlin.de using -f Received: from dslb-088-073-071-197.pools.arcor-ip.net (dslb-088-073-071-197.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.73.71.197]) by webmail.in-berlin.de (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:58:29 +0100 Message-ID: <1194195509.472dfa35d5fcc@webmail.in-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:58:29 +0100 From: Oliver Bandel To: OCaml Subject: Industry looks for commercial OCaml support? References: <200711041201.10255.jon@ffconsultancy.com> <1194188801.472de001905ce@webmail.in-berlin.de> <1194192721.25159.14.camel@rosella.wigram> In-Reply-To: <1194192721.25159.14.camel@rosella.wigram> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang_at_IN-Berlin_e.V. on 192.109.42.8 X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 472DFA37.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; bandel:01 in-berlin:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 show-stopper:01 sourceforge:01 oliver:01 oliver:01 programming:03 looks:08 ciao:11 lack:12 companies:87 companies:87 think:13 Zitat von skaller : [...] > Lack of commercial support -- the kind Jon is offering -- > is one of the impediments to industry taking Ocaml seriously. [...] I doubt one or some programmers that offer their programming service is, what industry is looking for, when it's looking for commercial support. Commercial support means, that big companies offer that service, because industry mistrusts single individuals. So, I doubt Jon can provide this. And: is this really a show-stopper for Ocaml, that there is no "commercial support"? I think, there are companies that already using Ocaml, but do not mention it. They see the advantages and use it. I don't miss any commercial support in OCaml, and the industry, which not knew anything about OCaml also does not miss support for a language that they don't know. The need for such support may come, when more people are interested in OCaml. Ciao, Oliver