From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4FCBC6B for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:07:38 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAHroKkfAbSoIh2dsb2JhbACOagIBCAop X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,363,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="3959114" Received: from concorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.39]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2007 17:07:38 +0100 Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA2G7aMM020175 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:07:38 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAHroKkfAbSoIh2dsb2JhbACOagIBCAop X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,363,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="3959113" Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de ([192.109.42.8]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2007 17:07:38 +0100 X-Envelope-From: oliver@first.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id lA2G7cfu015878 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:07:38 +0100 Received: (from www-data@localhost) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lA2G7bs3015872 for caml-list@inria.fr; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:07:37 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: einhorn.in-berlin.de: www-data set sender to oliver@first.in-berlin.de using -f Received: from dslb-088-073-127-217.pools.arcor-ip.net (dslb-088-073-127-217.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.73.127.217]) by webmail.in-berlin.de (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:07:37 +0100 Message-ID: <1194019657.472b4b49b053a@webmail.in-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:07:37 +0100 From: Oliver Bandel To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Language trends / Caml popularity (Re: [Caml-list] Google trends) References: <200711010102.39348.jon@ffconsultancy.com> <4729CE23.1040707@janestcapital.com> <1193933417.5839.29.camel@rosella.wigram> <20071101180535.GA28124@furbychan.cocan.org> <1193972508.31239.82.camel@rosella.wigram> In-Reply-To: <1193972508.31239.82.camel@rosella.wigram> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang_at_IN-Berlin_e.V. on 192.109.42.8 X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 472B4B49.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; bandel:01 in-berlin:01 fpls:01 verbose:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 sourceforge:01 oliver:01 oliver:01 typing:01 caml-list:01 caml:02 languages:03 programming:03 programming:03 Zitat von skaller : [...] > > That's just silliness. C++ is a much better language than C for > application development. [...] heheh, I met some developers, that talked this way for a long time, but now told me, that they would prefer C over C++. For me it was funny, because I never were a friend of C++ and instead looked for Perl, and later FPLs. And the Java-advocating people, first making a hype out of Java, after a while of development experience, had also talked less advocating to this language. For me, this was also a fun, because they needed some years of Programming Java until they had learned, what I saw after some days/weeks of exploring. Heheh. One thing, that I like in OCaml-programming is, that I don't have to type so much verbose stuff, which other languages need. Java for example: endless typing of class declerations means a lot of finger-gymnastics. But maybe this helps to avoid stiffness of the fingers, when you are 70 ;-) > > I prefer Ocaml .. but hardly anyone here in Australia has even > heard of it (even companies using *nix). [...] Even freshly studied computer science-people seldom know OCaml. But I've spread the word on the Berlin's Linux-Mailinglist for a while, and infected some of the developers with OCaml (at least that they know there is a programming language that is called OCaml). :) At least one of them now uses OCaml for his current project. :) Ciao, Oliver