From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Jacques Carette <carette@mcmaster.ca>
Cc: Nathaniel Gray <n8gray@gmail.com>, OCaml <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Patterns that evaluate
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:53:37 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1171511618.13529.49.camel@rosella.wigram> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45D37AD0.3090002@mcmaster.ca>
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 16:10 -0500, Jacques Carette wrote:
> Nathaniel Gray wrote:
> > I guess I'm not seeing it. How did you expect it to work? Is this
> > what you mean:
> >
> > ... | ({st = Some v}, _) when v = e -> e2
> Yes. that is what I meant.
>
> > Is there some functionality that you're looking for that when clauses
> > don't provide?
> No, there is not. I was just (mistakenly) assuming that the "more
> pleasant" syntax for this ``worked''.
It is a common wish, but has many problems IMHO.
First, it isn't very general. When clause has form:
| ... x ... when P(x) ->
which can express a lot more than merely one of the three
equality operators. Indeed, P doesn't even have to be a
known function -- it can be a function value.
Second, the translation:
| .. e .. -> to | .. x .. when x = e ->
without extra lexical marks distinguishing
pattern variables from local variables, and more generally
patterns from expressions, would be extremely fragile:
let h = 1 in
match x with
| h :: t -> ...
The meaning of this matching appears to be to match
a list starting with 1, binding t to the tail .. but
it all depends on whether t is a symbol in the context
of this fragment. The meaning would change if t were
not in the context and a programmer introduced it:
(* no t here *)
....
let ...
| h :: t ->
Now the programmer adds a new global variable
let t = [2]
...
and it changes the meaning of the implementation of
a function which one would expect was abstracted and localised.
Thirdly it leaves open the issue of non-linear patterns:
| x , x -> ...
The first x binds to the first component of a tuple ..
what does the second x do?? Easily solved with a when
clause:
| x, y when x = y -> ...
Fourth, when clauses have a restriction that they do not
allow introduction of extra bindings. I often need that:
| C x | D with x = 1 -> ... x ....
where I'm introducing a default for one branch.
I also often match nasty patterns in many places and really
wish I could name them:
pattern p(x) = C x
match e with | p(x) -> ...
doesn't provide active patterns, but it would be quite useful.
This can be done with a match composition already too:
let p e =
try match e with C x -> x
with _ -> raise MatchFailure
..
try let x = p e in ..with MatchFailure -> (* next case *)
but it is messy (hard to compose).
Jacques said:
> Is there some functionality that you're looking for that when clauses
> > don't provide?
> No, there is not.
and that's basically wrong. He's not telling the truth here :->
He IS looking for something more general, specifically
| f a -> ..
where f is pattern match variable. Ocaml currently requires f to be
a constructor, that is, a constant. Any notion of advanced
pattern matching would have to allow match variables to bind
to constructors.
IF we're going to extend pattern matching it should do this:
http://www-staff.it.uts.edu.au/~cbj/Publications/pattern_calculus.ps
IMHO of course.. :)
--
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net>
Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-15 3:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-13 22:04 Jacques Carette
2007-02-13 22:07 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2007-02-14 0:10 ` Jacques Carette
2007-02-14 18:20 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-02-14 18:55 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-02-14 19:10 ` Denis Bueno
2007-02-14 19:11 ` Jacques Carette
2007-02-14 19:25 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-02-14 20:30 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-02-14 21:05 ` Jon Harrop
2007-02-14 21:33 ` Jacques Carette
2007-02-14 22:34 ` Martin Jambon
2007-02-15 0:26 ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-02-15 3:57 ` Jon Harrop
2007-02-15 22:43 ` Don Syme
2007-02-14 20:29 ` Nathaniel Gray
2007-02-14 21:10 ` Jacques Carette
2007-02-15 3:53 ` skaller [this message]
2007-02-15 13:41 ` Jacques Carette
2007-02-15 14:10 ` skaller
2007-02-15 20:43 ` Nathaniel Gray
2007-03-07 11:15 ` Oliver Bandel
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