From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Asfand Yar Qazi <email@asfandyar.cjb.net>
Cc: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] STM support in OCaml
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 04:15:08 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1141751708.20944.355.camel@budgie.wigram> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <440DB255.1030701@asfandyar.cjb.net>
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 16:18 +0000, Asfand Yar Qazi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've temporarily decided to leave off learning OCaml (although I still intend
> to learn it at some point) and start learning Haskell due to its support for
> Software Transactional Memory and lock-free concurrent programming.
AFAIK STM is not lock free. It simply limits the locking period
to a bounded time, at the expense of the whole transaction
taking unbounded time. The final compare/write/retry must
be atomic and is therefore protected by a mutex under the hood.
Sebastian Egner said in another post the main advantage
of STMs: they have a combinator form, that is, they
can be composed.
However, despite the lack of safety in a bolt on
addition for Ocaml .. the real problem is that STM
isn't that useful unless you have
(a) a lot of processors
(b) a lot of variables
so that the risk of contention is low and the cost
of long exclusions is high. Ocaml fails to satisfy
property (a) since it doesn't support multi-processing.
--
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sourceforge dot net>
Async PL, Realtime software consultants
Checkout Felix: http://felix.sourceforge.net
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-07 17:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-07 16:18 Asfand Yar Qazi
2006-03-07 16:50 ` [Caml-list] " Sebastian Egner
2006-03-07 17:44 ` Michael Hicks
2006-03-08 0:37 ` Asfand Yar Qazi
2006-03-08 5:05 ` Erick Tryzelaar
2006-03-11 19:43 ` Deadlock free locking scheme (was: Re: [Caml-list] STM support in OCaml) David MENTRE
2006-03-07 17:15 ` skaller [this message]
2006-03-07 19:05 ` [Caml-list] STM support in OCaml Asfand Yar Qazi
2006-03-08 0:52 ` skaller
2006-03-08 7:08 ` Bardur Arantsson
2006-03-08 10:38 ` [Caml-list] " Asfand Yar Qazi
2006-03-08 19:36 ` William Lovas
2006-03-08 20:45 ` Brian Hurt
2006-03-08 21:14 ` Paul Snively
2006-03-08 22:06 ` skaller
2006-03-08 22:10 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2006-03-08 23:48 ` skaller
2006-03-09 7:45 ` Andrae Muys
2006-03-09 9:18 ` David Brown
2006-03-08 22:11 ` Brian Hurt
2006-03-08 23:05 ` Lodewijk Vöge
2006-03-09 3:13 ` Brian Hurt
2006-03-08 23:45 ` Robert Roessler
2006-03-09 0:23 ` skaller
2006-03-09 3:19 ` Brian Hurt
2006-03-09 4:32 ` skaller
2006-03-09 10:38 ` John Chu
2006-03-09 16:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-03-11 15:26 ` [Caml-list] " Florian Weimer
2006-03-08 10:11 yoann padioleau
2006-03-08 10:41 ` Asfand Yar Qazi
2006-03-08 12:23 ` skaller
2006-03-08 23:02 ` Asfand Yar Qazi
2006-03-09 0:36 ` skaller
2006-03-08 11:32 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2006-03-08 12:04 ` skaller
2006-03-08 19:22 ` Dan Grossman
2006-03-08 22:10 ` skaller
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