From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
Cc: Oliver Bandel <oliver@first.in-berlin.de>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] [1/2 OT] Indexing (and mergeable Index-algorithms)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:49:55 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1132278595.9668.127.camel@rosella> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0511171459120.24132@localhost.localdomain>
On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 16:15 -0600, Brian Hurt wrote:
>
> This is the worst possible case- that each block is half full. Which
> means that instead of log_k(N) blocks, you're having to touch log_{k/2}(N)
> blocks. This means that if N=2^32 and k=256, that you need to read 5
> blocks instead of 4 (128^5 = 2^35). And the number of blocks you need has
> about doubled. Also note that the binary search per block is now cheaper
> (by one step), and the cost of inserting elements is half.
>
> So the question becomes: is the performance advantage gained by
> rebalancing worth the cost?
Yes, that's the question. And there is no single answer :)
Note, it is not 5 reads instead of 4, it is 3 reads instead of 2
(assuming the first two levels are cached).
A BTree system I used once was fixed at 3 levels. So it could
be kind of critical :)
> If I was worried about it, I'd be inclined to be more agressive on merging
> and splitting nodes. Basically, if the node is under 5/8th full, I'd look
> to steal some children from siblings. If the node is over 7/8th full, I'd
> look to share some child with siblings. Note that if you have three nodes
> each 1/2 full, you can combine the three into two nodes, each 3/4th full.
> You want to keep nodes about 3/4th full, as that makes it cheaper to add
> and delete elements.
Yup. There are lots of possible tweaks :)
> Two problems with this: first, what happens when the sibling is full too,
> you can get into a case where an insert is O(N) cost, and second, this is
> assuming inserts only (I can still get to worst-case with deletes).
Depends precisely on the algorithm -- mine only looked once.
If the sibling was full, you just split as usual. Its a cheap
hack :)
--
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net>
Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-18 1:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-16 23:42 Oliver Bandel
2005-11-17 8:15 ` [Caml-list] " skaller
2005-11-17 15:09 ` Brian Hurt
2005-11-17 17:31 ` skaller
2005-11-17 18:08 ` Brian Hurt
2005-11-17 18:57 ` skaller
2005-11-17 22:15 ` Brian Hurt
2005-11-18 1:49 ` skaller [this message]
2005-11-17 8:35 ` Florian Hars
2005-11-17 9:24 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-11-17 12:39 ` Florian Weimer
2005-11-17 20:57 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-11-17 22:02 ` Florian Weimer
2005-11-17 11:49 ` Florian Weimer
2005-11-17 13:55 ` Richard Jones
2005-11-18 14:54 ` Jonathan Bryant
2005-11-18 14:22 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-11-18 14:37 ` Florian Weimer
2005-11-18 15:05 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-11-18 15:14 ` Florian Weimer
2005-11-18 16:03 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2005-11-18 20:03 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2005-11-18 20:01 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2005-11-18 21:12 ` Florian Weimer
2005-11-18 16:13 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-11-18 14:45 ` Florian Weimer
[not found] ` <437CD0E5.8080503@yahoo.fr>
2005-11-17 20:02 ` Oliver Bandel
[not found] ` <437CE8EC.1070109@yahoo.fr>
2005-11-17 20:41 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-11-18 15:06 ` Florian Hars
[not found] ` <437BD5F5.6010307@1969web.com>
2005-11-17 20:10 ` Oliver Bandel
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