From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Alain Frisch <Alain.Frisch@inria.fr>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] equality of Big_ints
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:02:00 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1128956520.7507.9.camel@rosella> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <434A19FA.4080805@inria.fr>
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 09:36 +0200, Alain Frisch wrote:
> skaller wrote:
> > The reason may be because the equality of integers
> > isn't the same as algebraic equality of the data structures:
>
> Indeed, but this is not about maintaining an invariant. Because of the
> representation of Big_int.big_int as a pair (sign,absolute value), the
> polymorphic comparison would give (-1) < (-2) if the custom comparison
> were used for Nat.nat.
Yes. There are really two separate issues here I think.
First, comparison is required for total ordering
or perhaps just equality is required for use in some data
structures (Hashtbl only needs equality and hash, a polymorphic
set would need the total order, but there isn't one ..)
In this case, only a bijection between abstract values
and representation is required,
which can obtained by a suitable representation invariant.
So here -1 < -2 may be counterintuitive, but irrelevant.
Second, comparison is required for user ordering of values.
Of course here -1 < -2 would be a disaster.
This is the same issue with floating comparison vs
polymorphic comparison of floats.
Of course the client can provide an ordering for (most)
functorised data structures -- the problem is if the data
type is complicated, it can be very hard to construct
the ordering, which is where the polymorphic comparison
proves useful.
An interesting tradeoff.
--
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net>
Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-10 15:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-10 4:12 Ian Zimmerman
2005-10-10 6:18 ` [Caml-list] " skaller
2005-10-10 7:36 ` Alain Frisch
2005-10-10 15:02 ` skaller [this message]
2005-10-10 9:10 ` Thomas Fischbacher
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