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From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Robert Morelli <morelli@cs.utah.edu>
Cc: Paul Snively <psnively@mac.com>,
	Kyle Consalus <consalus@gmail.com>,
	caml-list@yquem.inria.fr, Ville-Pertti Keinonen <will@exomi.com>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Some Clarifications
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 04:29:49 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1122229790.9027.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42E34C83.1090402@cs.utah.edu>

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On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 02:08 -0600, Robert Morelli wrote:
> but I primarily raised that point to underline that I believe
> the lack of a "theory" of large scale design issues is not a result of
> it.

Well, in my opinion, there is no 'theory' of large scale design
for Object Orientation, whilst there IS a theory for
functional programming. 

Attempts have been made to develop OO theory, but the result
primarily discredits OO, rather than supporting it:
the so-called 'covariance problem' basically destroys
class based (statically typed) object orientation as
a paradigm.

On the other hand, functional people DO have a well
founded, elegant, long standing theoretical framework.
Perhaps I might agree that Lambda Calculus is a low
level theory .. but I am referring instead to a theory
of abstraction at all levels: namely, Category Theory.
CT subsumes lambda calculus, it has provided the inspiration
for the ML language family module system, and the fundamental
data types: tuples/records, variants, and of course
function closures.

-- 
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sourceforge dot net>


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-07-24 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-14 18:00 (Mostly) Functional Design? Kyle Consalus
2005-07-18  7:59 ` [Caml-list] " Robert Morelli
2005-07-18  9:22   ` Alex Baretta
     [not found]     ` <42DB78D3.7010401@andrej.com>
2005-07-18 10:01       ` Alex Baretta
2005-07-18 18:15     ` Robert Morelli
2005-07-18 18:45       ` Alex Baretta
2005-07-18 18:56       ` padiolea
2005-07-18 19:19         ` Jon Harrop
2005-07-18 19:38       ` Jon Harrop
2005-07-18 21:27       ` skaller
2005-07-18 21:55         ` Alwyn Goodloe
2005-07-18 22:16         ` Paul Snively
2005-07-19  0:45           ` Jonathan Bryant
2005-07-18 21:37       ` skaller
2005-07-18 22:00     ` Kenneth Oksanen
2005-07-18  9:29   ` Mark Meyers
2005-07-18  9:56   ` Large scale and FP (was: Re: [Caml-list] (Mostly) Functional Design?) David MENTRE
2005-07-18 18:11     ` Large scale and FP Robert Morelli
2005-07-18 14:08   ` [Caml-list] (Mostly) Functional Design? james woodyatt
2005-07-18 16:37     ` Alwyn Goodloe
2005-07-18 14:21   ` alphablock
2005-07-18 15:26     ` Alex Baretta
2005-07-18 15:38       ` alphablock
2005-07-18 17:17       ` Doug Kirk
2005-07-18 18:14         ` Alex Baretta
2005-07-19  7:42         ` james woodyatt
2005-07-19  9:35           ` Robert Morelli
2005-07-19 16:53             ` james woodyatt
2005-07-19 17:13               ` Paul Snively
2005-07-19 23:58                 ` Jon Harrop
2005-07-20  0:29                   ` Paul Snively
2005-07-18 18:23   ` padiolea
2005-07-18 19:45   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2005-07-18 22:16     ` skaller
2005-07-19  0:48   ` Chris Campbell
2005-07-19 20:14   ` Some Clarifications Robert Morelli
2005-07-20  6:18     ` [Caml-list] " Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-07-24  0:04       ` Robert Morelli
2005-07-24  2:30         ` Paul Snively
2005-07-24  7:37           ` Alex Baretta
2005-07-24  8:08           ` Robert Morelli
2005-07-24 12:23             ` David Teller
2005-07-24 18:29             ` skaller [this message]
2005-07-24 18:51             ` Paul Snively
2005-07-24 12:42         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2005-07-25  7:23         ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-07-20  7:34     ` David MENTRE
2005-07-27 15:37       ` Robert Morelli
2005-07-27 20:33         ` skaller
2005-07-27 23:48           ` Paul Snively
2005-07-20 16:28     ` Damien Doligez
2005-07-24 14:51       ` Robert Morelli
2005-07-24 16:11         ` David MENTRE
2005-07-25 12:21         ` Damien Doligez
2005-07-25 15:47           ` Richard Jones
2005-07-22  5:18   ` [Caml-list] (Mostly) Functional Design? Marius Nita
2005-07-27  9:38 [Caml-list] Some Clarifications Don Syme
2005-07-27 10:58 ` Jon Harrop
2005-07-27 11:55   ` Robert Roessler
2005-07-27 14:01     ` Richard Jones
2005-07-28  0:29       ` Robert Roessler
2005-07-27 18:42     ` skaller
2005-07-27 13:36   ` David Thomas
2005-07-27 13:53     ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-07-27 16:23   ` james woodyatt
2005-07-27 14:32 David Thomas

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