From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
Cc: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] C++ STL and template features compared with OCaml parametric polymorphism and OO features
Date: 28 Sep 2004 02:38:01 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1096303081.28613.710.camel@pelican.wigram> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0409271025360.5809-100000@localhost.localdomain>
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 01:30, Brian Hurt wrote:
> On 28 Sep 2004, skaller wrote:
> > For templates all you need is a class with an operator()() method.
> >
> > Dynamic dispatch is only needed if you need
> > run time function variables (first class functions).
>
> All this means is that the calling code, instead of calling foo->doit(),
> now instead calls (*foo)(). Not that big of a difference in coding
> volume.
The call is done by foo() which works for C functions,
pointers to them, and function objects. This is required for
STL to be generic.
> And you still need dynamic dispatch because you're passing the superclass
> type in.
Type information is not required, the C++ compiler checks
the calls argument and return types after instantiation.
> Unless you're talking about templating the map/fold functions so
> that you get a different instantiation for each call?
Yes, because it costs nothing, which is much cheaper
than the virtual dispatch:
template<class F, class T>
T apply(F f, T a) { return f(a); }
struct Sin {
float operator()(float a) const { return a; }
};
float (*pf)(float)= sin;
apply(sin,1.0);
apply(Sin(),1.0);
apply(pf,1.0);
No dynamic dispatch is required here. The templates
works with C functions, pointers to C functions,
and function objects.
The first two calls should both resolve to
just sin(1.0) (the call through the C pointer
requires an extra memory access .. :)
If you use a base and dynamic dispatch you'd incur
an overhead. Note the call is applied to a function
constant argument (the sine function).
Felix only uses dynamic dispatch when the function
is stored in a variable (or when it is too stupid
to optimise the call away by substitution).
BTW: note in the template, F is NOT the type
of the function -- it is the *class*
of the function. The actual function has type
T -> T
The class of the function is irrelevant.
The class can even be float (*)(float),
it is still irrelavant -- what matters
is the type of f(a). For the function
object, that's a completely distinct
method with its own type -- unrelated
to the type of F: F is used solely
to lookup operator()() -- oh yeah,
that's ad hoc polymorphism.. :)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-27 16:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-25 21:12 Vasili Galchin
2004-09-25 21:38 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-09-25 22:15 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-09-25 22:52 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-09-26 1:34 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-26 5:31 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-26 9:47 ` sejourne_kevin
2004-09-26 13:05 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-26 14:36 ` skaller
2004-09-26 15:08 ` sejourne_kevin
2004-09-26 15:27 ` skaller
2004-09-26 18:51 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-26 20:14 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 1:59 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-27 4:48 ` skaller
2004-09-27 9:40 ` Jacques GARRIGUE
2004-09-27 10:50 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 12:14 ` skaller
2004-09-27 13:11 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-27 13:31 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 16:54 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-29 18:59 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 13:32 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 14:04 ` Brian Hurt
2004-09-27 14:58 ` skaller
2004-09-27 15:30 ` Brian Hurt
2004-09-27 16:38 ` skaller [this message]
2004-09-27 17:01 ` Brian Hurt
2004-09-28 1:21 ` skaller
2004-09-27 16:41 ` brogoff
2004-09-28 0:26 ` skaller
2004-09-29 15:32 ` Florian Hars
2004-09-29 16:49 ` [Caml-list] Factoring HOFs [was Re: C++ STL...] Jon Harrop
2004-09-30 9:19 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-30 10:13 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-09-30 10:31 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-09-30 13:21 ` skaller
2004-09-30 23:17 ` [Caml-list] Factoring HOFs Jacques Garrigue
2004-10-01 8:46 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-01 17:35 ` brogoff
2004-09-26 20:43 ` [Caml-list] C++ STL and template features compared with OCaml parametric polymorphism and OO features skaller
2004-09-26 14:19 ` skaller
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