From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Damien Doligez <damien.doligez@inria.fr>
Cc: caml users <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Gripes with array
Date: 11 Sep 2004 11:43:07 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1094866987.23076.132.camel@pelican.wigram> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BD38E8B6-032F-11D9-8FD7-00039310CAE8@inria.fr>
On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 23:45, Damien Doligez wrote:
> An intermediate solution would
> be to make a "Array.unsafe_make" primitive, which would use memset
> instead of initialising the array properly.
Yeah but that doesn't solve the problem of filling
the array initially with some 'non-binary-zero' value.
You'd still need two passes: the memset and the
proper fill (hence paging all the memory in twice).
AFAICS tracking how much of an array is initialised
with an index the GC can use costs a single
comparison when you're not initialising arrays.
EG: the GC has a list of blocks undergoing
initialisation, determining the list is empty
should be a single machine instruction.
If you're initialising an array without any
recursion, that's two comparisons.
So the only time there would be a serious impact
on the GC would be if you're initialising many
big arrays all at once (EG if you're making a matrix
as an array of arrays), and that cost would be
small compared to scanning twice.
I can't predict the performance of the one
extra comparison needed when no arrays are
being initialised because it probably depends
on the processor cache design -- how much
can one machine instruction + one memory
reference cost?
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-09 2:10 Jon Harrop
2004-09-09 5:08 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-09-09 7:17 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-09-09 8:23 ` Richard Jones
2004-09-09 9:08 ` Olivier Andrieu
2004-09-09 12:08 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-09-09 12:31 ` Damien Doligez
2004-09-09 10:42 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-09-09 9:37 ` Damien Doligez
2004-09-09 10:34 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-09-09 12:15 ` Igor Pechtchanski
2004-09-09 13:01 ` Brian Hurt
2004-09-09 20:08 ` [Caml-list] 32-bit is sticking around Brandon J. Van Every
2004-09-09 21:04 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-11 15:30 ` Lars Nilsson
2004-09-11 16:24 ` [off topic] " David MENTRE
2004-09-11 17:52 ` Lars Nilsson
[not found] ` <200409111656.11952.jon@jdh30.plus.com>
2004-09-11 17:47 ` Lars Nilsson
2004-09-09 16:58 ` [Caml-list] Gripes with array Jon Harrop
2004-09-10 5:56 ` Array.init (was [Caml-list] Gripes with array) Christophe Raffalli
2004-09-10 8:53 ` Richard Jones
2004-09-10 14:50 ` Damien Doligez
2004-09-13 7:02 ` Christophe Raffalli
2004-09-10 13:45 ` [Caml-list] Gripes with array Damien Doligez
2004-09-11 1:43 ` skaller [this message]
2004-09-11 3:16 ` skaller
2004-09-11 14:36 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-11 20:53 ` Damien Doligez
2004-09-12 15:33 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-12 16:07 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-09-10 23:48 ` brogoff
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