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From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>
Cc: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>, Nicolas Cannasse <warplayer@free.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Alternative Bytecodes for OCaml
Date: 28 Aug 2004 10:25:17 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1093652716.15255.1636.camel@pelican.wigram> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200408271556.44476.jgoerzen@complete.org>

On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 06:56, John Goerzen wrote:

> > Two reasons. One: C is the portable interface
> > to almost all operating systems -- there are
> 
> This means that you could write an OCaml interface to syscalls.  
> Granted, that's an advantage, but one I rarely need.

Like when you read from a in_channel in Ocaml?

You don't need to access the system. But the
Ocaml team did, to give you that feature .. :)

> > Two: there are a lot of libraries written
> > in C with C interfaces, which are either
> > compliant with some standard or open source.
> 
> That's true.  At the same time, binding to C is just about the most 
> difficult language I could imagine to bind to.  

Yeah? Just try interfacing two diffent memory management
systems -- eg Ocaml and JVM garbage collectors :)
[At least C doesn't really *have* any memory management system :]

> I'm not disputing that at all.  Obviously this is true.  I'm just 
> suggesting that other approaches have utility, too, because they're 
> superior in some situations.

And I'm not disputing that -- in general. I'm just questioning
the utility of accessing inferior technology just
to interface inferior libraries.

My suggestion was the maximum utility would actually come
from this when needing to access *custom* codes -- that
is one off applications not worth rewriting, or, proprietary
codes you cannot rewrite.

> > Surely enhancing OcamlDBI is a viable option?
> 
> I have to talk to several databases who provide drivers only for Windows 
> ODBC and Java JDBC.  There is no hope of OCamlDBI supporting them, 
> ever.

Hmm .. but Windows ODBC is just another C API for databases isn't it?
So OcamlDBI can talk to it -- Ocaml does run on Windows :)

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-28  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-25 14:26 John Goerzen
2004-08-25 14:38 ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 14:50   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 15:02     ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26  9:05       ` Raphael Montelatici
2004-08-26 13:20         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26 13:30           ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 14:55   ` Lars Nilsson
2004-08-25 15:06     ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:14       ` John Goerzen
2004-08-28  3:49     ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 15:05 ` skaller
2004-08-25 15:21   ` Lars Nilsson
2004-08-25 15:22   ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 15:52     ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 16:26       ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:40         ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:49       ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-08-25 17:01         ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 17:17         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 20:00       ` skaller
2004-08-25 15:23   ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-25 15:24     ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-08-27 14:26     ` Daniel Ortmann
2004-08-27 14:44       ` skaller
2004-08-27 14:59       ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-25 15:35   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 16:00   ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 15:40 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 17:55   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 18:37     ` skaller
2004-08-27 18:49       ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 20:39         ` skaller
2004-08-27 20:56           ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 22:05             ` Richard Jones
2004-08-27 23:15               ` John Goerzen
2004-08-31 11:10                 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-08-28  0:25             ` skaller [this message]
2004-08-28  9:35               ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-28  9:50                 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-28 10:41                   ` skaller
2004-08-28 11:37                     ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-25 17:37 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-25 18:00   ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 22:10 ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-08-26  0:09   ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26  4:26     ` [Caml-list] bytecode and native code at once Brandon J. Van Every
2004-08-26  9:55       ` skaller
2004-08-26 15:52         ` [Caml-list] " mikel
2004-08-26 17:09           ` Paul Snively
2004-08-26 17:31             ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 18:04               ` Paul Snively
2004-08-26 18:28                 ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 21:15             ` skaller
2004-08-27  8:52           ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-08-27 15:39             ` David Brown
2004-08-27 15:48               ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 21:42     ` [Caml-list] Alternative Bytecodes for OCaml Michal Moskal
2004-08-27  9:38       ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 13:09         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 13:44           ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-27 13:58           ` skaller
2004-08-27 20:48           ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 21:03             ` Benjamin Geer
2004-08-30 16:40             ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 19:49         ` Blair Zajac
2004-08-27 22:18           ` Richard Jones
2004-08-27 23:38             ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-08-28 16:40               ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-28 17:03                 ` [Caml-list] (GC issues) " Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-28 20:45                   ` [Caml-list] " Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-29  2:31                     ` skaller
2004-08-29  5:04                       ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-08-29 12:58                         ` John Goerzen
2004-08-29 15:06                           ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-29 15:22                             ` Radu-Mihail Obada
2004-08-29 10:12                     ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-30 12:23                       ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-30 13:17                         ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-26 16:04 ` [Caml-list] " =?unknown-8bit?Q?=A3ukasz?= Dobrek

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