From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>
Cc: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>, Nicolas Cannasse <warplayer@free.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Alternative Bytecodes for OCaml
Date: 28 Aug 2004 10:25:17 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1093652716.15255.1636.camel@pelican.wigram> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200408271556.44476.jgoerzen@complete.org>
On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 06:56, John Goerzen wrote:
> > Two reasons. One: C is the portable interface
> > to almost all operating systems -- there are
>
> This means that you could write an OCaml interface to syscalls.
> Granted, that's an advantage, but one I rarely need.
Like when you read from a in_channel in Ocaml?
You don't need to access the system. But the
Ocaml team did, to give you that feature .. :)
> > Two: there are a lot of libraries written
> > in C with C interfaces, which are either
> > compliant with some standard or open source.
>
> That's true. At the same time, binding to C is just about the most
> difficult language I could imagine to bind to.
Yeah? Just try interfacing two diffent memory management
systems -- eg Ocaml and JVM garbage collectors :)
[At least C doesn't really *have* any memory management system :]
> I'm not disputing that at all. Obviously this is true. I'm just
> suggesting that other approaches have utility, too, because they're
> superior in some situations.
And I'm not disputing that -- in general. I'm just questioning
the utility of accessing inferior technology just
to interface inferior libraries.
My suggestion was the maximum utility would actually come
from this when needing to access *custom* codes -- that
is one off applications not worth rewriting, or, proprietary
codes you cannot rewrite.
> > Surely enhancing OcamlDBI is a viable option?
>
> I have to talk to several databases who provide drivers only for Windows
> ODBC and Java JDBC. There is no hope of OCamlDBI supporting them,
> ever.
Hmm .. but Windows ODBC is just another C API for databases isn't it?
So OcamlDBI can talk to it -- Ocaml does run on Windows :)
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Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-25 14:26 John Goerzen
2004-08-25 14:38 ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 14:50 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 15:02 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26 9:05 ` Raphael Montelatici
2004-08-26 13:20 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26 13:30 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 14:55 ` Lars Nilsson
2004-08-25 15:06 ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:14 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-28 3:49 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 15:05 ` skaller
2004-08-25 15:21 ` Lars Nilsson
2004-08-25 15:22 ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 15:52 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 16:26 ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:40 ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 16:49 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-08-25 17:01 ` Jason Smith
2004-08-25 17:17 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 20:00 ` skaller
2004-08-25 15:23 ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-25 15:24 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-08-27 14:26 ` Daniel Ortmann
2004-08-27 14:44 ` skaller
2004-08-27 14:59 ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-25 15:35 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-25 16:00 ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 15:40 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 17:55 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 18:37 ` skaller
2004-08-27 18:49 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 20:39 ` skaller
2004-08-27 20:56 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 22:05 ` Richard Jones
2004-08-27 23:15 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-31 11:10 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-08-28 0:25 ` skaller [this message]
2004-08-28 9:35 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-28 9:50 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-28 10:41 ` skaller
2004-08-28 11:37 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-25 17:37 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-25 18:00 ` Richard Jones
2004-08-25 22:10 ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-08-26 0:09 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-26 4:26 ` [Caml-list] bytecode and native code at once Brandon J. Van Every
2004-08-26 9:55 ` skaller
2004-08-26 15:52 ` [Caml-list] " mikel
2004-08-26 17:09 ` Paul Snively
2004-08-26 17:31 ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 18:04 ` Paul Snively
2004-08-26 18:28 ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 21:15 ` skaller
2004-08-27 8:52 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-08-27 15:39 ` David Brown
2004-08-27 15:48 ` mikel evins
2004-08-26 21:42 ` [Caml-list] Alternative Bytecodes for OCaml Michal Moskal
2004-08-27 9:38 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 13:09 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 13:44 ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-27 13:58 ` skaller
2004-08-27 20:48 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-27 21:03 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-08-30 16:40 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-27 19:49 ` Blair Zajac
2004-08-27 22:18 ` Richard Jones
2004-08-27 23:38 ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-08-28 16:40 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-28 17:03 ` [Caml-list] (GC issues) " Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-28 20:45 ` [Caml-list] " Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-29 2:31 ` skaller
2004-08-29 5:04 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-08-29 12:58 ` John Goerzen
2004-08-29 15:06 ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-29 15:22 ` Radu-Mihail Obada
2004-08-29 10:12 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-30 12:23 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-08-30 13:17 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-08-26 16:04 ` [Caml-list] " =?unknown-8bit?Q?=A3ukasz?= Dobrek
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