From: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
To: "Ennals, Robert" <robert.ennals@intel.com>
Cc: Nicolas Cannasse <warplayer@free.fr>,
"Brandon J. Van Every" <vanevery@indiegamedesign.com>,
caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] 32 bit floats, SSE instructions
Date: 08 Jun 2004 21:17:47 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1086693467.16811.840.camel@pelican.wigram> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <78B55F0E8771CC4B8F6995AB83AF655204679C24@swsmsx402.ger.corp.intel.com>
On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 18:10, Ennals, Robert wrote:
> [snip]
> While a GC does need to have some way to distinguish between pointers
> and data, this is not the only way that this can be done. Another
> approach (used by GHC) is to dispense with tag bits and instead store a
> bitmask for each datatype and each stack layout, indicating which fields
> are pointers.
>
> I don't know much about the relative advantages/disadvantages of the two
> approaches, but there is definitely a design space to be explored, and
> it is definitely possible to have native 32 bit floats in a garbage
> collected language.
Felix uses an array of offsets to locate pointers.
And in Felix all types are fully expanded (except in sums
due to a design stupidity in C++).
A disadvantage of the offsets approach is that
Felix pointers and C pointers can't be mixed
in polymorphic functions operating on pointer to T:
the distinction is entirely static. In Ocaml, the
check is done at run time -- meaning less code bloat
and a small performance hit.
Expanded types provide superior efficiency
in some cases, and of course include boxing (pointers)
as a special case and so subsume systems that only box.
--
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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-08 8:10 Ennals, Robert
2004-06-08 11:17 ` skaller [this message]
2004-06-08 17:42 ` John Carr
2004-06-09 16:13 ` Xavier Leroy
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-08 17:15 Jon Harrop
2004-06-08 19:59 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09 3:15 ` skaller
2004-06-09 4:08 ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-09 6:33 ` skaller
2004-06-09 16:26 ` Xavier Leroy
2004-06-09 17:58 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-06-09 18:15 ` Daniel Ortmann
2004-06-09 18:52 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-06-09 20:03 ` John Carr
2004-06-09 19:54 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-07 11:13 Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-07 11:32 ` Christophe TROESTLER
[not found] ` <20040607131717.GA12136@gaia.cc.gatech.edu>
2004-06-07 16:53 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-06-07 19:30 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-07 20:39 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-06-08 5:42 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-08 16:54 ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-08 20:50 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09 3:19 ` skaller
2004-06-08 14:23 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-06-10 14:43 ` David Brown
2004-06-10 15:20 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-06-10 15:57 ` skaller
2004-06-10 16:23 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-06-10 16:47 ` skaller
2004-06-10 19:46 ` Evan Martin
2004-06-07 21:00 ` Richard Jones
2004-06-07 21:42 ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-09 15:55 ` Richard Jones
2004-06-07 22:48 ` Chris Clearwater
2004-06-07 17:01 ` brogoff
2004-06-08 1:50 ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-08 5:27 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-08 15:05 ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-08 16:50 ` art yerkes
2004-06-08 17:10 ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-08 19:24 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09 0:25 ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-09 1:33 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-09 3:04 ` Jon Harrop
2004-06-09 3:27 ` skaller
2004-06-09 14:21 ` Christophe TROESTLER
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