From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id VAA05912; Mon, 24 May 2004 21:24:29 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA06085; Mon, 24 May 2004 21:24:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.203]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i4OJONSH010600; Mon, 24 May 2004 21:24:25 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.200] (ppp114-11.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net [150.101.114.11]) by smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i4OJOIk2028866; Tue, 25 May 2004 04:54:19 +0930 (CST) Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Large projects in OCaml From: skaller Reply-To: skaller@users.sourceforge.net To: Xavier Leroy Cc: Jacques GARRIGUE , jdh30@cam.ac.uk, caml-list In-Reply-To: <20040524162002.A19967@pauillac.inria.fr> References: <200405211228.34673.jdh30@cam.ac.uk> <20040524.120703.46614549.garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp> <1085376050.6065.230.camel@pelican.wigram> <20040524.211426.68536843.garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp> <1085406873.6065.272.camel@pelican.wigram> <20040524162002.A19967@pauillac.inria.fr> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1085426657.6065.297.camel@pelican.wigram> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-4) Date: 25 May 2004 05:24:18 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 40B24BE8.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 sourceforge:01 2004:99 end-users:99 scream:01 scream:01 model:01 discovery:99 model:01 python:01 python:01 9660:01 glebe:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 00:20, Xavier Leroy wrote: > > What matters to end-users is shared libraries > > which Ocaml can't build at all. The real world out > > there demands *components* they can plug together. > > The next time I read a sentence starting with "the real world", I > think I'm going to scream. Sorry .. I deserve it (scream away :) > At any rate, your jump from shared libraries to components is a > non-sequitur. Shared libraries are a spectacularly poor component > model (no multiple interfaces, almost no dynamic discovery of > interfaces, no distribution transparency of any kind, etc). No dispute. > A good component model for OCaml (and other languages): that would be > interesting. Shared libraries for the sake of shared libraries: that > isn't interesting in the least. In Python, you can simply install PyOracle and go. Do you really think there is any comparison between that and recompiling Python???? -- John Skaller, mailto:skaller@users.sf.net voice: 061-2-9660-0850, snail: PO BOX 401 Glebe NSW 2037 Australia Checkout the Felix programming language http://felix.sf.net ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners