From: Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de>
To: Richard Jones <rich@annexia.org>
Cc: Benjamin Geer <ben@socialtools.net>,
Inria Ocaml Mailing List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] PostgreSQL-OCaml 1.0.1
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:58:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1075474727.1023.72.camel@ice.gerd-stolpmann.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040130104715.GA24501@redhat.com>
On Fre, 2004-01-30 at 11:47, Richard Jones wrote:
> If people think that the mod_caml DBI approach is the right one (and
> it may not be, although it certainly Works For Us), then I could spin
> this off into a separate package to make it easier to install.
>
> This is dbi.mli:
>
> http://savannah.nongnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/modcaml/modcaml/dbi.mli?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
>
> This is dbi_postgres.mli, which is the driver we use all the time in
> production at Merjis, hence the most stable / developed:
>
> http://savannah.nongnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/modcaml/modcaml/dbi_postgres.mli?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
>
> This is the driver for Perl DBDs:
>
> http://savannah.nongnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/modcaml/modcaml/dbi_perl.mli?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
>
> The interface is designed to make it quick to access databases, in the
> sense that you write the minimum code necessary. It's not type safe,
> in the sense that if you write garbage SQL, it won't be detected until
> runtime. Alex Baretta is, I believe, pursuing an alternative approach
> using Camlp4 which is supposed to be type safe.
Hi,
I think we really need this type of interface. I have some experience
with Perl DBI, and although our company did have the need to support
several database systems in the same product, this made things a lot
easier, simply because you don't have to learn a new API when you switch
to a another database system.
So I would it really appreciate if this interface were released as
independent package.
Of course, I have also some technical remarks:
- I don't understand why there are several ways to represent NULL.
For example, what is the difference between `Null,
`TimestampOption None, and `Timestamp ts where ts.ts_is_null=true?
- Using host,port,user,password to identify and authenticate a connection
works in most cases, but is not very wise for the long-term stability
of the interface. For example, it is already possible to authenticate
with X509 certificates, which cannot be expressed with this scheme.
I would suggest to only have two strings, one called "system_id",
the other called "authenticator". In general, these strings are
interpreted by the driver, but there are conventions, e.g.
"host=XXX,port=XXX" for the system_id, and "user=XXX,password=XXX"
or "user=XXX,x509privatekey=XXX,x509passphrase=XXX" for the authenticator.
- There is no way to pass options to the driver when one uses the Factory.
I think it would be a good idea to have a string for driver options,
again in the format "key=value,...".
- There should be method for escaping strings (so one can generate SQL
statements)
- One exception should be special: That transactions are aborted because
of conflicts (think of Postgres' MVCC) or deadlocks and should be repeated.
I think the other possible errors can be subsumed in one Sql_error exception
as it is currently done.
- There should be a possibility to coerce a generic connection object
back to the driver's class. This can be done by adding a method
driver_handle that just raises a driver-specific exception
returning the handle. This way it is possible to switch to low-level
code at any time, e.g. for optimizations for certain DBMS.
- Following the coding guidelines for O'Caml, methods with side-effects
should have a functional type, e.g. finish : unit->unit instead
of just finish:unit. This has also the advantage of making it
simpler to later add optional arguments to methods.
- There was the question how to handle BLOBs. I worked with DBMS where
TEXT is a BLOB type. I think there should be a BLOB class like
class type blob = object
method length : int64
method get_chunk : pos:int64 -> len:int -> string
method write_file : string -> unit
end
and there should be methods (of the connection) creating such BLOBs:
method create_blob_from_string : string -> blob
method create_blob_from_file : string -> blob
I think this is the minimal BLOB interface we should support. More
advanced BLOB interfaces can be implemented in the drivers.
I hope we get a really good generic DBMS layer soon.
Gerd
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-01-30 14:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-01-28 18:32 Markus Mottl
2004-01-28 22:44 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2004-01-28 23:21 ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-29 9:38 ` Sven Luther
2004-01-29 18:18 ` Alain.Frisch
2004-01-29 20:06 ` Richard Jones
2004-01-29 23:36 ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-30 5:50 ` Josh Burdick
2004-01-30 7:37 ` Shawn Wagner
2004-01-30 8:21 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-01-30 10:24 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-01-30 10:47 ` Richard Jones
2004-01-30 14:58 ` Gerd Stolpmann [this message]
2004-01-30 15:46 ` Richard Jones
2004-01-30 11:14 ` Markus Mottl
2004-01-30 11:25 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-01-30 11:41 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-01-30 16:44 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-30 16:49 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-01-30 8:23 ` Alain.Frisch
2004-02-01 21:03 ` Alain.Frisch
2004-01-30 12:02 Richard Jones
2004-01-30 12:15 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-01-30 12:23 ` Richard Jones
2004-01-30 12:30 ` Richard Jones
2004-01-30 12:43 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-01-30 12:56 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-01-30 13:22 ` Richard Jones
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