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From: "Daniel Bünzli" <daniel.buenzli@epfl.ch>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Has the thread cancellation problem evolved ?
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:24:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <07BE0325-B260-407C-A1BB-389D4C88311C@epfl.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1188214119.13927.16.camel@rosella.wigram>


Le 27 août 07 à 13:28, skaller a écrit :

> I agree with you rationale, but it isn't clear the conclusion follows
> that raise_in is acceptable.
>
> To give a simple pseudo code:
>
> 	begin
> 		let f = open_out filename in
> 		write f stuff;
> 		close f
> 	end
>
> which would work assuming write doesn't raise, will fail to
> work in the presence of async exceptions.

It won't fail to work, there is the possibility that f will never be  
closed, that's it. The point is that the code written above should  
not be written in a library (library IO routines should always take a  
channel or a stream, not a filename, for other reasons aswell, e.g.  
to IO on a socket). Such code should be written by the user of the  
library, and if he knows he needs to handle cancellation he will act  
accordingly. Note that you don't catch Sys_error here...

> This roughly means
> every resource acquisition MUST be guarded by a try/with
> which catches the async exception and releases the resource
> before re-raising it.

Yes but if you are not a sloppy programmer you already guard your  
operations on channels to handle the various errors that can occur  
and End_of_file. And if you are really not a sloppy programmer you  
already have and use your own version of try/finally :

let apply f x ~finally y =
   let res = try f x with exn -> finally y; raise exn in
   finally y;
   res

Anyway most of the things I would like to cancel are not functions  
dealing with channels or locks but functions that do perform  
intensive numerical computations. In the presence of a human user you  
cannot let the ui hang for arbitrary long period of time, he should  
be able to cancel if he gets bored.

Daniel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-27 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-25 13:58 Daniel Bünzli
2007-08-25 15:29 ` [Caml-list] " skaller
2007-08-26 23:47   ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-08-27  0:18     ` Till Varoquaux
2007-08-27  4:38     ` skaller
2007-08-27 10:12       ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-08-27 11:28         ` skaller
2007-08-27 11:49           ` Jon Harrop
2007-08-27 12:24           ` Daniel Bünzli [this message]
2007-08-27 12:38             ` Jon Harrop
2007-08-27 13:09               ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-08-27 14:27               ` skaller
2007-08-27  7:55     ` Markus E L
2007-08-27 23:33   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-08-28  9:26     ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-08-28 11:42       ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-08-28 14:46         ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-08-28 14:23       ` Gordon Henriksen
2007-08-28 14:35         ` Brian Hurt
2007-08-28 14:44           ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-08-28 14:54           ` Robert Fischer
2007-08-28 15:12             ` Brian Hurt
2007-08-28 15:32               ` Gordon Henriksen
2007-08-28 15:40               ` skaller
2007-08-29  8:12               ` Lionel Elie Mamane
2007-08-28 15:00           ` Gordon Henriksen
2007-08-25 15:44 ` skaller
2007-08-26 23:24   ` Alain Frisch
2007-08-25 15:57 ` Gordon Henriksen

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