When he says that "theorem proving algorithms do not work [...] they only prove trivial theorems",
he may just be out of date, or he may only be talking about completely automatic provers. (Even
then his claim is a bit questionable: what about the Robbins Conjecture etc.?)
 
I didn't notice anything about the relevance of the halting problem in that page, so maybe it's
somewhere else. Anyway, it's clearly not relevant to proving the correctness of typical real-world
algorithms, whatever he may or may not say.
 
His general dismissive attitude to formal methods is not uncommon. And it's prefectly reasonable
to point out that modern computer systems can be so complex and ill-defined that they are hardly
amenable to formal treatment. But a more balanced view would acknowledge the significant
success of formal methods in certain niches, and their role in trying to check that very unmastered
complexity.
 
John.
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Subject: [Caml-list] Formal Methods

I have just been reviewing some papers by Greg Chaitin on Algorithmic Complexity Theory, in which he boldly states that

"Similarly, proving correctness of software using formal methods is hopeless. Debugging is done experimentally, by trial and error. And cautious managers insist on running a new system in parallel with the old one until they believe that the new system works."

from

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/CDMTCS/chaitin/omega.html

He goes to great lengths to discuss the halting problem and its implications for proving correctness of algorithms.

I wonder, as a non-specialist in this area, how the goals of FPL squares with this result?
David McClain
Senior Corporate Scientist
Avisere, Inc.

david.mcclain@avisere.com
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