From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id DAA15776; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 03:40:28 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA15439 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 03:40:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from psyche.kaba.or.jp (psyche.kaba.or.jp [202.249.19.1]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h232eOH18564 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 03:40:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.kaba.or.jp (cascade.kaba.or.jp [202.249.19.34]) by psyche.kaba.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD24F229FB; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:40:20 +0900 (JST) Received: from WARP (dhcp04.kaba.or.jp [202.249.19.39]) by mail.kaba.or.jp (Postfix) with SMTP id BF36F49A6C; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:40:20 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <00d601c2e12e$21b3ec60$2713f9ca@WARP> From: "Nicolas Cannasse" To: , "Jacques Garrigue" Cc: References: <02103BF1-4835-11D7-B97A-000A95773ED2@rouaix.org><15963.19322.759255.37091@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20030228182016D.garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp> Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Alternative proposal: COAN Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:39:36 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam: no; 0.00; cannasse:01 warplayer:01 caml-list:01 reasonnable:01 cygwin:01 ocamake:01 personnaly:01 developpers:01 ocaml:01 caml:01 nicolas:01 stubs:01 lib:01 binary:02 commands:97 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk > One last comment on Windows. Since most development is taking place on > Unix, I think this is reasonnable to make the presence of basic cygwin > tools a requirement for compiling packages. The presence of gnu make > and some shell commands should be enough for most. Handling of C > libraries is more complex, but this must often be handled also at the > source level. The need of having cygwin installed if you're not using the cygwin ocaml version is quite a problem. I totally agree with you when you say that OCaml binary distributions are not suitable (right now - maybe later). But that goes for the Caml part of the package, and not really for the C stubs. As a windows Ocaml user, I would strongly recommend that the package authors who wants to support the Win32 target do the following : - if the package only contains Caml code, release a full source code - if the package contains both Caml and C stubs : * release the full source code using gnu/shell tools for compiling (for unix users and windows users who are familiar with such tools) * release a half-binary Windows code where the C compiled dll/lib are provided with the full Caml source code only ( a separate tool like ocamake can handle the compilation ) For all things concerning installation, I think it's far more easy on windows than on unix systems, and so should be handled separatly (a caml written tool not relying on cygwin shell tools should be enough, according that the package author provide a minimum information on how-to-install-it ). PS : I'm a cygwin gnu/shell tools user, but I personnaly think that most of windows developpers are not willing to do so, and that providing tools for it is more in the windows-way-of-thinking. Waiting for comments, Nicolas Cannasse ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners