From: "David Allsopp" <dra-news@metastack.com>
To: "'caml-list'" <caml-list@yquem.inria.fr>
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] Compiler feature - useful or not?
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:18:18 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <00a701c82885$726915b0$017ca8c0@countertenor> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071116181024.GA15777@gato.physics.und.nodak.edu>
Fernando Alegre wrote:
> > permission and back. And automatically generated runtime checks to
> > ensure that you don't try to convert ( 37 :> permission ). 1 remains an
>
> No, no. Run-time checks are evil :-) I mean, OCaml is supposed to be
> a static type-safe system, so that programs that typecheck are guaranteed
> to run (maybe forever...) and never segfault.
This isn't a runtime type-check - it's a runtime domain check and it's
necessary in the absence of a much more exotic type system that includes
information on the domain and range of a function as well as it's "raw"
type. Getting an int from a permission is an error-free process (because all
permissions are ints) but getting a permission from an int can fail because
only some ints are permissions. You need to have a runtime check (or a proof
- which isn't how O'Caml works) that the int is valid. Spotting and
eliminating conversion of constants would of course be a good compiler
optimisation but permission_of_int (or whatever conversion construct you
came up with) would need to raise an exception on invalid input.
Consider string_of_int (error-free - all ints can be represented as strings)
vs. int_of_string which raises an exception if the string is not a
recognised representation of an int.
> While exceptions are needed for I/O, no core expression should raise an
> exception.
compare = compare;;
(though cf. SML equality types)
Good code using permission_of_int (as with good code using int_of_string)
would ensure that the int is valid before ever calling permission_of_int but
the permission_of_int itself needs to be able to raise the exception to
fulfil the contract of its type (int -> permission).
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-16 19:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-13 23:41 Edgar Friendly
2007-11-14 0:08 ` [Caml-list] " Yaron Minsky
2007-11-14 0:21 ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-14 7:58 ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 12:37 ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-14 13:56 ` Virgile Prevosto
2007-11-14 14:35 ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 16:38 ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-14 18:43 ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 19:19 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15 6:29 ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-15 13:26 ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-15 17:29 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15 20:28 ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16 0:47 ` Brian Hurt
2007-11-15 22:37 ` Michaël Le Barbier
2007-11-15 22:24 ` Michaël Le Barbier
2007-11-16 0:30 ` Yaron Minsky
2007-11-16 1:51 ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16 9:23 ` Alain Frisch
2007-11-16 14:17 ` rossberg
2007-11-16 15:08 ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16 16:43 ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16 16:46 ` Till Varoquaux
2007-11-16 17:27 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-16 17:47 ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-16 17:54 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-16 18:10 ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16 19:18 ` David Allsopp [this message]
2007-11-16 19:32 ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16 19:50 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-11-16 17:31 ` Fernando Alegre
2007-11-16 17:43 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-16 0:46 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-11-16 8:23 ` Andrej Bauer
2007-11-16 8:58 ` Jean-Christophe Filliâtre
2007-11-16 9:13 ` Andrej Bauer
2007-11-16 9:48 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-11-14 16:57 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-14 21:04 ` Pierre Weis
2007-11-14 22:09 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15 0:17 ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-11-15 6:23 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-15 10:53 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-11-15 13:48 ` Jacques Carette
2007-11-15 14:43 ` Jon Harrop
2007-11-15 16:54 ` Martin Jambon
2007-11-14 16:09 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-11-14 16:20 ` Brian Hurt
2007-11-14 11:01 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-11-14 10:57 ` Jon Harrop
2007-11-14 14:37 ` Zheng Li
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