From: "Eric Newhuis" <enew@bigfoot.com>
To: "Caml" <caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr>
Subject: Re: Do you mean that C# will be at its head? (was Re: [Caml-list] Jihad)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:54:20 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <003a01c1679c$64a15ba0$d0c201cf@XENO> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011107184438.A7336@team.ph.inter.net>
You can rest assured I was not referring to C#, but the common language
nirvana that Microsoft seems to be hyping.
C# is obviously "Microsoft Search & Redevelopment". And I think it is
amazing that smart people like Anders Hejlsberg enjoy regurgitating Java at
any price.
Yes I agree with you and perhaps I am overly optimistic about Microsoft's
willingness to help bring Caml to the masses.
I am also aware of a few of the difficulties in targeting MSIL.
Nevertheless I am hopeful and I will continue the struggle.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rafael 'Dido' Sevilla" <sevillar@team.ph.inter.net>
To: "Eric Newhuis" <enew@starband.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 4:44 AM
Subject: Do you mean that C# will be at its head? (was Re: [Caml-list]
Jihad)
> On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 01:20:09AM -0600, Eric Newhuis wrote:
> > An Early Hope?
> >
> > Microsoft's .NET platform may play the role of catalyst in this Jihad.
> > For finally we may see theoretically superior research-grade
> > languages make their way into the mainstream with a newfound ability
> > to use a common library platform (i.e. Microsoft's platform). Once
>
> When you speak of "theoretically superior research-grade languages", do
> you mean C#? Because, if you do, I really have to laugh at what is
> otherwise a well-reasoned, well-thought-out rant. I've seen what C#
> looks like and, well, what I can say is that Anders Hejlsberg seems to
> have opened a "Java for Dummies" book when he began designing the
> language! Nothing about it incorporates any of the cutting edge
> research into language design that you refer to elsewhere. All it is
> really is the marriage of C++ and Java that combines most of the good
> parts of both. To call it a "theoretically superior research-grade
> language" is the funniest thing I've heard all year. At best, it's an
> evolutionary improvement on an old design, a design which you, in the
> rest of your rant, blast violently.
>
> No, I doubt that .NET will be the catalyst for this "Jihad" you talk
> about. Microsoft is not pushing any of the alternative languages like
> OCaml as its spearhead for .NET, whether they funded development for it
> or not. They "invented" (using a loose definition of "invented") C# for
> that purpose, and C# is still deep in the family of languages you hit.
>
> --
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2001-11-07 7:20 [Caml-list] Jihad Eric Newhuis
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2001-11-07 14:54 ` Eric Newhuis [this message]
2001-11-13 6:35 ` David Fox
2001-11-13 12:17 ` Receptive Tool Vendors (was: Re: [Caml-list] Jihad) Eric Newhuis
2001-11-13 15:55 ` David Fox
2001-11-13 23:57 ` Eric Newhuis
2001-11-14 15:26 ` David Fox
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